The Daily Mail

[Seagull on the wing]

Again - lazy stereotyping.

Really...you write 3 words...I write about 70...and you call me lazy...The highlighted area you put on my post was the reply to your ...

"What is this obsession about being a 'socialist leftie' and having a few quid? Is that not allowed?
There are good and bad on both sides of the political spectrum....I do not class all left wing wingers communist.....but the left scream racist,anti semetic at the right...

 

[User removed 4]

'You're own'...why don't you expand on what you mean by that, how do you as a person define 'you're own'?

It's "your" own , so if thats a cheap comment on my grammar , which it seems it is , then you've failed, my own ? The white working class of this country , particularly in the inner cities , who've been spectacularly shat upon , by both tory and labour governments .

 

[Seagull on the wing]

As expected the Daily Mash have a take on this.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...e=emailCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=

Yes...a political comedy mag run by Jim Telling...ec BBC....good spot

 

[Frutos]

From Jon Snow to Al Murray.
The Twitter world was flooded with peoples contempt for the DM.

Bloody hell, didn't realise they got the Daily Mail in Westeros.

 

[Nibble]

You were if you wanted a job with unions involved and in my line of work at that time it was being part of a Union or no job

Yes but no-one was forcing you! You even read like a Mail headline!

ENTIRE GENERATION FORCED TO JOIN UNIONS OR STARVE

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

So you do read the Mail....you think that it peddles lies...thats funny because they have exposed all the Lying that has been going on in the Labour party between Brown and his compatriots...and really,the Daily Mirror...the beacon of truth....yer..OK.

The Mail did not "expose" anything. It was all extensively and fully covered in the left-leaning but relatively FAIR-MINDED Guardian. A range of newspapers across the political spectrum actually seek the truth. The Daily Mail is not one of them. How it can seek to turn all this in to accusations of Ed Miliband wanting to gag the press beggars belief.

 

[The Large One]

Really...you write 3 words...I write about 70...and you call me lazy...The highlighted area you put on my post was the reply to your ...

"What is this obsession about being a 'socialist leftie' and having a few quid? Is that not allowed?
There are good and bad on both sides of the political spectrum....I do not class all left wing wingers communist.....but the left scream racist,anti semetic at the right...

Please - why are you writing using ellipses? Weren't you taught written sentence construction?

The number of words I've used to counter your argument is by the by.

And the bit I've emboldened - like your previous effort, you're over-simplifying political agendas, as if only 'left' and 'right' exist. Many people with conservative (with a large and small 'C') 'scream' - as you put it - about anti-semitism and racism. Nor is anti-semitism a monopolied preserve of the 'right'.

How big of you not to class all left-wingers 'communist', because of the obvious consideration that they're not all communist. Nor do they all 'scream' at the right. One or two even have reasoned debates, you know.

 

[Mellotron]

The Daily Mail and Express really are in a differente category to pretty much all other non-tabloid papers. It's impossible to take them seriously.

 

[Nibble]

The Mail peddles right wing fantasy for those who are too weak to face reality but consider themselves strong. Except at weekends, when it seems to devote the entire paper and suppliment to Downton Abbey and what nic-nacs Gloria Hunniford has in her study.

 

[Albumen]

Campbell hardly is innocent but this sums it up for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-GMTxycAXY&feature=youtu.be

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Mail readers really need to take a hard long look at themselves and ask themselves why they give money to this ****.

 

[soistes]

It's "your" own , so if thats a cheap comment on my grammar , which it seems it is , then you've failed, my own ? The white working class of this country , particularly in the inner cities , who've been spectacularly shat upon , by both tory and labour governments .

But don't you live in Haywards Heath?

 

[Nibble]

What a loser. The Mail sees the Right, quite correctly under scrutiny. Thinks "We'll have a bit of that" and spectacularly mis-judges it all. Fascist twats.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I would vow to never buy it again, but I never have anyway.

 

[User removed 4]

But don't you live in Haywards Heath?

Yes, yes I do , I also used to live in the inner city , as did all my extended family , not too difficult a concept for you to grasp is it ?

 

[Nibble]

Yes, yes I do , I also used to live in the inner city , as did all my extended family , not too difficult a concept for you to grasp is it ?

So that argument is good enough for you when you need it but not for anyone else? You don't change do you eh Bushy. I almost admire it.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I have only just watched the snippet from Newsnight.

I expected to see something different, I felt that the newspaper guy stayed quite calm whilst Campbell ranted and tripped over some sentences, seemed a bit forced when he twice mentioned ''best of and worse of'' rehearsed buzz sentence.

Not sure if I care too much about the piece or the relevance of the Milibands fathers political position, but I didnt think Campbell was particularly good in this.

I have just watched the snippet on I-player as well. I thought the deputy editor of the Mail was pathetic. Quite apart from Campbell, Emily Maitlis was clearly quite contemptuous of what the mail had done, or the conclusions they had reached. She was actually pointing out some of the inadequacies of their argument and their conclusions - such as "How can you say he hated this country when he signed up and fought for it as a refugee?"

If Alistair Campbell was tripping over his words sometimes, it was probably because he was (justifiably) angry. The calmness of the Mail deputy editor could not cover up the paucity or illogicality of his arguments. I think the Mail could well have done itself more harm than good in this.

 

[Nibble]

Unfortunately I doubt it will affect the readership at all. The typical Mail reader will merely agree with the piece and turn over to the Cotton Traders catalogue.

 

[mikeyjh]

If Alistair Campbell was tripping over his words sometimes, it was probably because he was (justifiably) angry. The calmness of the Mail deputy editor could not cover up the paucity or illogicality of his arguments. I think the Mail could well have done itself more harm than good in this.

My thoughts exactly, quite why some people judge passion as a negative, I don't know. I agree entirely with your comments on the Asst Editor - Calm, collected and completely vacuous.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

My thoughts exactly, quite why some people judge passion as a negative, I don't know. I agree entirely with your comments on the Asst Editor - Calm, collected and completely vacuous.

vacuous is exactly the right word.

 

[soistes]

Unfortunately I doubt it will affect the readership at all. The typical Mail reader will merely agree with the piece and turn over to the Cotton Traders catalogue.

Too true.

However, the whole episode and the coverage it's received across the rest of the media and politics, which seems to have been overwhelmingly against the Mail (with the exception of a few senior Tories who half defended it in a mealy-mouthed sort of way), has probably generated a certain amount of sympathy for Milliband, and reminded those who might have forgotten about the underlying nastiness of the Tory world and its media supporters. If it helps to push a few more fair-minded apolitical centrist voters away from the Tories come 2015, it might be that the Mail will come to see that its actions were a bit counter-productive.