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[Music] The Cure







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I think Just Like Heaven is over rated.

Genuinely.

Sorry.
These things can by definition, only ever be subjective, so no need to apologise for being BANG WRONG. :)

Just like heaven is well up there, with Pictures of you, Lovesong, Plainsong, Close to me, In between days, and Boys don't Cry as tier one classic Cure tracks.

In fact the only bit about the catalogue that is NOT subjective, is that 'Friday I'm in love' is an abomination that should never have been recorded, and should be hereby thrown in the sea.
 
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Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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An interesting take.

He ‘will never be caught picking the obvious answer no matter how correct it is’ - this statement is odd to me. People will always have their favourites, it is never objectively ‘right’ that a certain track is a group’s best.

You use Blue Monday as your example. I wouldn’t have this in my top ten New Order songs, and I’m not trying to be cool about it.

I think his Cure top 20 is pretty good. I’d have had In Between Days at number 1 myself. Just Like Heaven would make my top 5, but his top 5 is a pretty strong choice.

I would also have had Jumping Someone Else’s Train and Killing an Arab in the top 20. And probably Let’s Go to Bed.
All fair choices re: the Cure and of course there is never a correct answer. It's just been a standing joke in our house that my wife will read the paper and say that Petedris has done whichever band and that the most obvious choice that would be made by the man in the street will never be at number one. I only remember him failing us once when he did Pulp and actually put 'Common People' top. I remember our shock.
 


Guinness Boy

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One thing that's objectively true is that Alexis Petedris will never be caught picking the obvious answer, no matter how correct it is. He put Blue Monday at No 4 in the list of New Order songs. He reminds me of Lee & Herring's 'Ironic Review' parody of Julie Birchall and Tony Parsons, forever concerned more with what they want people to think they think, than with what they actually think. It always leads him to make the muso hack's easiest mistake of punishing the popular for being popular in an attempt to seem to know more than the herd. 'Just Like Heaven' at number 6? :rolleyes: It's not that low in the list of greatest pop singles ever made, let alone in the Cure's catalogue.
I've only just got round to reading / listening to this. Sorry, but I'm with HT. A Forest is my stand out winner. I did a Spotify playlist of stuff from this era the other day (also including the Bunnymen, The Smiths, New Order / Joy Division, The Church, JAMC, Pixies, you get the picture) and my three Cure tracks were Just Like Heaven, A Forest and Lullaby which isn't even on Petridis's list.

And, yes, I've read your later posts and understand what you're on about (Blue Monday at 4 for New Order is a disgrace) but I guess I was expecting to be outraged by a far too cool for school list and, instead, I find myself merely chuntering that I can't really remember One Hundred Years, supposedly their third best, but the frankly brilliantly disturbing Lullaby is nowhere to be seen.
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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These things can by definition, only ever be subjective, so no need to apologise for being BANG WRONG. :)

Just like heaven is well up there, with Pictures of you, Lovesong, Plainsong, Close to me, In between days, and Boys don't Cry as tier one classic Cure tracks.

In fact the only bit about the catalogue that is NOT subjective, is that 'Friday I'm in love' is an abomination that should never have been recorded, and should be hereby thrown in the sea.
I'm with you on friday im in love. Not so much on Close to me, In between days and Boys don't cry.

Thinking about it maybe I'm not so much a cure fan as I am a fan of Disintegration. That album is phenomenal.
 




Machiavelli

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I'm with you on friday im in love. Not so much on Close to me, In between days and Boys don't cry.

Thinking about it maybe I'm not so much a cure fan as I am a fan of Disintegration. That album is phenomenal.
If you trust Petridis (which is somewhat contentious on here), the new one is in the vein of and the best since Disintegration -- which is the one that I've listened to most in recent years.
 


mile oak

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May 21, 2023
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They must be the best thing to come outta Crawley. Amazingly Robert Smith's voice is virtually unchanged and arguably even sounds better in time. I believe I read somewhere he now lives in Bognor Regis. When you are constantly touring I doubt you ever actually reside anywhere though. The Cureheads (cover band) have a band member that I believe comes from Bognor Regis (no not RS, now wouldn't that be good - bit like (Bruce Foxton) From The Jam) and have played various gigs around Sussex.

If It hasn't already been mentioned go to the Cure official website and Friday 1.11.24 you can watch their London gig live streamed on their website (or link from there) but you have to register in advance. It's free to watch and register.
 


BN9 BHA

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They must be the best thing to come outta Crawley. Amazingly Robert Smith's voice is virtually unchanged and arguably even sounds better in time. I believe I read somewhere he now lives in Bognor Regis. When you are constantly touring I doubt you ever actually reside anywhere though. The Cureheads (cover band) have a band member that I believe comes from Bognor Regis (no not RS, now wouldn't that be good - bit like (Bruce Foxton) From The Jam) and have played various gigs around Sussex.

If It hasn't already been mentioned go to the Cure official website and Friday 1.11.24 you can watch their London gig live streamed on their website (or link from there) but you have to register in advance. It's free to watch and register.
 
























BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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I remember when The Cure were booked in for a gig but they couldn't make it, so Placebo turned up instead.
But no-one noticed...
Brilliant ... And stolen.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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I think Just Like Heaven is over rated.

Genuinely.

Sorry.

Woah there fella!!

You may be right though, I rate it as one of the best songs ever created.

So maybe I have overrated it and it is just brilliant.

Agree with you on Disintegration, it is one of the best albums ever created.
 






BadFish

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These things can by definition, only ever be subjective, so no need to apologise for being BANG WRONG. :)

Just like heaven is well up there, with Pictures of you, Lovesong, Plainsong, Close to me, In between days, and Boys don't Cry as tier one classic Cure tracks.

In fact the only bit about the catalogue that is NOT subjective, is that 'Friday I'm in love' is an abomination that should never have been recorded, and should be hereby thrown in the sea.

I have trained my brain to not accept Friday I'm in Love ass a Cure song. In this wa it is tolerable to my ears (when my wife plays it).

However this also means that it has no place on this thread.

... See also 'High'
 


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