Clive Walker
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If you choose to be unvaccinated it would help if you choose not to use a hospital when requiring one. That would solve the entire problem.
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[News] The Coronavirus Good News thread
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Fat Boy Fat
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Now now, good news thread isn’t the place for such statements, try the main coronavirus thread.
US data but once again shows the efficacy of the vaccine “in the wild”
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The media and SAGE aren't interested in this. Wouldn't spread anywhere near enough fear and panic or suit the hysterical Imperial analysis predicting a million hospital admissions a day.
Following on from that (from the DT)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/21/londons-omicron-epidemic-shows-reasons-optimistic/
London's omicron epidemic shows there are reasons to be optimistic
With some common sense and protections for the vulnerable, we should be able to get through this without further restrictions
The latest data on omicron appears to be promising. The cases data suggests, tentatively, that the wave might have peaked in London, at it has now clearly peaked in various parts of South Africa. Detailed analyses of the action of the virus in the body is offering more support for the (still very provisional) hypothesis that it may be a bit milder than delta was, and evidence from South Africa suggests that stays in hospital appear to be materially shorter.
Cases having peaked already in London would, if that really turns out to be so, be a considerable surprise. The most likely factors appear to be some combination of increased working from home (which in previous waves has induced a particularly sharp drop in R in London, where the scope for working from home is especially high), self-imposed restrictions on activities ahead of Christmas (with people not wanting to risk being sick during the festive season and whilst mixing with elderly relatives), and perhaps some drop-off in taking tests or reporting positive results when the disease is mild and people want to avoid the full period of self-isolation.
…and importantly……
One especially pertinent piece of data is the current number of people in hospital with Covid: 6,688 in England as of December 20th. That compares with 16,633 on December 20th last year and 34,336 at the peak last January. The fact that we begin from such a low number of Covid patients in hospital, and that the omicron wave is so much sharper (quicker up, and expected to be quicker down) than last year’s alpha wave (what we called the “Kent variant”, at the time) means that comparisons of the peak number of people being admitted to hospital each day are inadequate as a measure of the burden on the NHS.
In January 2021 the peak day involved 4,134 Covid admissions in England. When we hear talk of how, absent restrictions, there might be 5,000 new admissions a day that seems very serious. And of course for those admitted it is. But in terms of the burden on the NHS it is much less than it might appear. Because with the omicron spike happening so fast and we being on such a low number of Covid patients in hospital, even with a peak of nearly 6,000 a day new admissions we would be unlikely to come near the January 2021 peak. And that is even with an average 6 day stay in hospital. Data from South Africa suggests omicron stays are much shorter than that.
So things look promising for being able to avoid restrictions. Cases may already have peaked in London, through behaviour change, as they have clearly now done in South Africa. Omicron may be slightly milder, at least to the extent of involving shorter hospital stays when they happen. And because omicron’s wave is so fast, we can bear more daily hospitalisations with less total burden on the NHS.
Wrong-Direction
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Queued for an hour and a half outside tesco Hove yesterday but it's done now
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Albeit delta - but still
Devan Sinha [MENTION=35173]Devans[/MENTION]inha
99% booster vax effectiveness vs hospitalisation
UKHSA test negative case control study for Delta
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99% booster vax effectiveness vs hospitalisation
UKHSA test negative case control study for Delta
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Son and his girlfriend have both tested positive. Good news is that they both say that they have had worse colds so hopefully this is another sign that the virus is weakening.
Boosted this afternoon. Great operation at Portslade Metical Centre
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Presumably both vaccinated? If so, it shows also that vaccines protect against serious illness, hospitalization and death.
The flip side is that our countries are being held hostage by the unvaccinated
The flip side is that our countries are being held hostage by the unvaccinated
I’m actually quite surprised…….was expecting a big jump in numbers today but actually fewer positive cases reported than on Friday (ignoring the slight and normal weekend dips on Sat/Sun numbers) despite colossal test numbers again.
Machiavelli
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I got a positive test on Sunday. A lot of sneezing and a cold on the Saturday, but that had more or less gone by yesterday. These are the symptoms associated with Omicron. Another is fatigue, which is translating into me sleeping well. Which happened irregularly beforehand.
Looks like London cases could have peaked
Me and Mrs Peteinblack have both tested positive this week, but having been double-vaxxed and recently 'boosted', our symptoms are just like a common cold, plus generally feeling tired.
Given what a lot of people have suffered over the last 20 months, we feel very fortunate to have got away so lightly, and to have avoided it for this long.