The big issues - how do you stand on the Great Blue v Red passport debate

[jimhigham]

Whatever the eventual outcome I expect the government to stripe us £80 to renew it

In my work I specialise in document security and forgery. You'd be amazed at how much goes into the little booklet you need to go on holiday. I've been taken on a tour of the De La Rue plant where they watermark the paper that goes into such documents. That's just the watermarking process. The elaborate printing is done elsewhere. This stuff does not come cheap and is done so for a good reason. It's precisely so that when a forgery does cross your path, nine times out of ten it is bleedin' obvious. In this instance, I don't begrudge coughing up the money for what it is a very good secure document.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Well said sir. Almost brings a tear to the eye .. knew you would see the light eventually.

The typography can be much clearer when it just says "England and Wales" at the bottom.

 

[rippleman]

And once the passport issue is sorted, I hope we are getting pounds and ounces back to replace those daft and confusing kilograms.

I haven't eaten a broccoli floret since they went metric.

 

[rippleman]

No it doesn't. It is asking whether older people considered their children and grandchildren when voting in the referendum, or talked to them about it. My daughter-in-law was disgusted at how her parents voted.

Nope - don't get this at all! Why should anybody consider other peoples opinions when voting? Makes no sense. It was a referendum; we all got one vote each. I voted as I wished to vote and didn't give a moments thought to the opinions of those older or younger than me, or my cat.

To be "disgusted" at how somebody else exercised their democratic franchise really shows they have little else in their lives. The world has bigger problems.

 

[happypig]

In my work I specialise in document security and forgery. You'd be amazed at how much goes into the little booklet you need to go on holiday. I've been taken on a tour of the De La Rue plant where they watermark the paper that goes into such documents. That's just the watermarking process. The elaborate printing is done elsewhere. This stuff does not come cheap and is done so for a good reason. It's precisely so that when a forgery does cross your path, nine times out of ten it is bleedin' obvious. In this instance, I don't begrudge coughing up the money for what it is a very good secure document.

I'll begrudge it if they want me to pay again after renewing it in November last year.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I'll be happy with whatever passport saves me having to queue up at Gatwick immigration in line with people from a couple of dozen other nations. Fair enough, I hate any kind of queue, but would it REALLY have been that difficult to fast track UK citizens into UK, French citizens into France, German citizens into Germany etc.

 

[pearl]

Rule Britannia, long live the red, white and blue Brexit we all hope and expect and the biscuits and jam we're about to become world leaders in!

isn't biscuits a French word?

 

[pearl]

And once the passport issue is sorted, I hope we are getting pounds and ounces back to replace those daft and confusing kilograms.

I haven't eaten a broccoli floret since they went metric.

and over turn the smoking band ... get the high chairs out the pubs!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

£500 million..... Christ....

Still not a waste of money at all.....

 

[Albumen]

500m. Absolute helmets.

 

[Two Professors]

This government is committed to ending Freedom of Movement. The EU parliament will insist on rights being reciprocal. So, unless the UK approach changes pretty dramatically then, in two years' time, my kids and I will not have the right to live, work, and study in the other 27 EU countries, which we currently do.

We *might* still be able to move. We don't know. It's pure speculation. But saying that we won't have the *right* to unless there's a change of direction/government, and that this is reflected in the change of passports, is a solid prediction.

And it perfectly illustrates how the young people of the UK have been ****ed over by the older generations who voted to leave the EU.

Why don't you apply for asylum,then,instead of whining? Or is that just for brown people?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I have no children, therefore no grand children, does that mean my vote is insignificant?

Of course not. Everybody should exercise their democratic right......... even if they're wrong..........

 

[JC Footy Genius]

So that's blue, not black?

Blue is the new black?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

The typography can be much clearer when it just says "England and Wales" at the bottom.

Boooo.

Perhaps you chaps could have your own passport ... Republic of Remoania?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Nope - don't get this at all! Why should anybody consider other peoples opinions when voting? Makes no sense. It was a referendum; we all got one vote each. I voted as I wished to vote and didn't give a moments thought to the opinions of those older or younger than me, or my cat.

To be "disgusted" at how somebody else exercised their democratic franchise really shows they have little else in their lives. The world has bigger problems.

If somebody has children or grandchildren, they might just conceivably be interested in how things will work out for their grandchildren as a result of how they might vote. They might talk about issues. Doesn't necessarily mean they have to agree.

And I think the "disgusted with how parents voted " bit was out of concern for the world and its bigger problems that you mention, her view being that BREXIT will make the world a worse place.

 

[GT49er]

If somebody has children or grandchildren, they might just conceivably be interested in how things will work out for their grandchildren as a result of how they might vote.

I have children and grandchildren. I am interested in how things will work out for my grandchildren as a result of how I might vote. I considered all the options, carefully and diligently. I fully understood the importance of the issues, and weighted up the pros and cons. As a result of which, with a clear conscience, I voted leave.

 

[GT49er]

And once the passport issue is sorted, I hope we are getting pounds and ounces back to replace those daft and confusing kilograms.

I haven't eaten a broccoli floret since they went metric.

I shouldn't worry. They've replaced metric - they're just pre-packed and £1.25 now.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

There's nothing in the rules that requires EU passports to be burgundy coloured. Croatian passports are EU passports, but are dark blue in colour.

 

[Baldseagull]

Nope - don't get this at all! Why should anybody consider other peoples opinions when voting? Makes no sense. It was a referendum; we all got one vote each. I voted as I wished to vote and didn't give a moments thought to the opinions of those older or younger than me, or my cat.

To be "disgusted" at how somebody else exercised their democratic franchise really shows they have little else in their lives. The world has bigger problems.

Like the colour of our passports?

 

[W.C.]

I have children and grandchildren. I am interested in how things will work out for my grandchildren as a result of how I might vote. I considered all the options, carefully and diligently. I fully understood the importance of the issues, and weighted up the pros and cons. As a result of which, with a clear conscience, I voted leave.

erm, so you agree with Davidinsouthampton then?