The Belgium bombing - An interesting perspective

[Guinness Boy]

Good points raised, of which some have flown beneath the hysterical media reporting who want shoot outs, arrests and dead terrorists. It would appear that the Belgium security apparatus,is way behind where it should be, given that in Brussels we have NATO Headquarters, the headquarters of the EU and a duty to their citizens and those of the EU. As the debate over the in or out continues I have to wonder how much we can rely on the security services of Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece, Austria, Germany, France etc given the appalling lack of basic intelligence gathering and action that we have seen. Cameron also appears to have gone quiet on how safe we are being in the EU. This whole episode is now becoming more amateur by the hour, French and Belgium security services rushing around the streets carrying weapons, raiding houses and arresting who?
They are all way off the mark, enter Donald Trump who has stated that western and EU governments are weak, despite his politics, its difficult to argue his point.
Our governments are in a state of flux, paralysed by opinion polls, placating this and that minority, focus groups and generally just not being up to the job.

What's difficult to accept is that in a few months time Trump, Putin and the North Koreans will all have their hands on a button of sorts. Anyone on this thread who enjoys being scared should probably take that thought away with them this afternoon.

 

[The Rivet]

Well on reviewing the contributions to this thread I have to say that Lamie lately is more like LameRobertson!

If I get a ban I don't care.

The world is in a cultural religious war.

 

[Big G]

Hmm the Guardian.

"A muslim shopkeeper was recently murdered in Glasgow, Scotland. Naturally the bogey-man far-right was in the frame.... only it turned out to be a fellow muslim. That presented the uber-left Guardian with a problem....


It is now known that he was stabbed up to 30 times at his shop, for praising both the life of Jesus and ‘his beloved Christian nation’. That is why he was murdered by another muslim, so how did the Guardian report this uncomfortable fact?


Flowers and messages of thanks have been left on a street corner in Glasgow where a much-loved shopkeeper was stabbed to death in an attack that police are treating as “religiously prejudiced”.

The man, who has been named locally as Asad Shah, was described as a gentle man who cared deeply for his community and every year would print out his own Christmas cards with personal messages for customers.

Police Scotland announced on Friday evening that a 32-year-old man had been arrested in connection with the death of 40-year-old Shah, who was discovered with serious injuries in the Shawlands area of Glasgow, a few miles south of the city centre, just after 9pm on Thursday. The victim was taken to the Queen Elizabeth university hospital, where he was pronounced dead on arrival.


As pretty much every other newspaper to report on the affair has noted – The Express; The Daily Mail; The Sun – the killer was another Muslim. At no stage, anywhere in the Guardian article are we told this. (Nor, shamefully, does the print edition of the increasingly liberal-squishy Telegraph report this detail; nor does the left-wing Independent). This is worse than politically correct squeamishness. This is actively dangerous and irresponsible.


Anyone so-minded could read this report of the “religiously prejudiced” murder of a Muslim shopkeeper and draw the conclusion that his killer was a Christian seeking vengeance after Brussels. In fact, there was never any question about the killer’s religious identity: Mohammad Faisal, a family friend, said a bearded Muslim wearing a long religious robe entered Mr Shah’s shop and spoke to him in his native language before stabbing him in the head with a kitchen knife.

and

Mr Shah’s brother, who was working next door, rushed out to find the killer laughing while sitting on the Glasgow newsagent’s bleeding chest. ‘The brother dragged Mr Shah away but the guy continued attacking with the blade,’ said Mr Faisal. ‘They struggled up to the bus stop where Asad collapsed. ‘It was just a clear-cut revenge attack. For posting messages about peace, messages about greeting fellow Christians and Jews. ‘That man must not have been too happy about what he was doing, what he was preaching. It was a well-planned attack. He must have been an extremist.

www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/26...ing-press-hides-religious-identity-of-killer/

And your point is what? That by your own admission all the press reported it the same way because the initial press release highlighted his social media posting and a nice new descriptive of "religiously motivated"
So even the Guardian would struggle to put their slant on that story.
Your dragged out and quite frankly pittyful response is typical of someone desperate in some way try and justify a point of view by attempting to in some way prove a point with a response that is nothing to do with the original point!

 

[Hastings gull]

And your point is what? That by your own admission all the press reported it the same way because the initial press release highlighted his social media posting and a nice new descriptive of "religiously motivated"
So even the Guardian would struggle to put their slant on that story.
Your dragged out and quite frankly pittyful response is typical of someone desperate in some way try and justify a point of view by attempting to in some way prove a point with a response that is nothing to do with the original point![/QUOTE]

Doing my best but quite frankly, this needs a translator!

 

[Big G]

And your point is what? That by your own admission all the press reported it the same way because the initial press release highlighted his social media posting and a nice new descriptive of "religiously motivated"
So even the Guardian would struggle to put their slant on that story.
Your dragged out and quite frankly pittyful response is typical of someone desperate in some way try and justify a point of view by attempting to in some way prove a point with a response that is nothing to do with the original point![/QUOTE]

Doing my best but quite frankly, this needs a translator!

Even though I have had a few.....I think it makes perfect sense!

 

[Hastings gull]

Even though I have had a few.....I think it makes perfect sense!

I think this might depend on what you have been drinking!

 

[cjd]

Alcoholics Anonymous....0800 9177 650

Hope this helps.

 

[Soulman]

Even though I have had a few.....I think it makes perfect sense!

I suppose it will make sense until you sober up.

 

[Big G]

Alcoholics Anonymous....0800 9177 650

Hope this helps.

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