[Politics] The BBC - (Rant about Impartiality)

[dingodan]

That sounds like a conspiracy theory, it's really just the way Politician's operate when there isn't a shared vision and party discipline. They "brief".

At the moment the Cabinet is as leaky as a sieve because behind the facade of unity it's all very fragile. They don't trust Boris and Boris doesn't trust them, politically they are misfits.

The "price of Brexit" to the rest of the Cabinet is to allow Boris to make billions of promises to the country and gain the attention and popularity he desperately needs.

He's also keeping cabinet out of all the important Brexit decision making and they hear about them just a few hours before the press.

Raab and Truss are smiling through gritted teeth.

Well I recall watching a debate on the BBC recently which included a reporter and he basically acknowledged that he thinks some reporters are doing that too (making up stuff and attributing it to unnamed sources).

 

[BadFish]

Five years ago I used to view the BBC as my go to source of news, that I could trust completey. No longer. Completely biased, run by remainers, presenters are remainers, editors are remainers, lots of news getting buried.

Where is the headline news about Jo Swinson's husband receiving £4million from the EU for example? That makes a grope of a thigh 20 years ago look very insignificant but guess which one they're still banging on about!

What is your current news source?

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[Bakero]

Five years ago I used to view the BBC as my go to source of news, that I could trust completey. No longer. Completely biased, run by remainers, presenters are remainers, editors are remainers, lots of news getting buried.

Where is the headline news about Jo Swinson's husband receiving £4million from the EU for example? That makes a grope of a thigh 20 years ago look very insignificant but guess which one they're still banging on about!

I just googled the 4 million thing and the only hit was a comment on the Stormfront forum. I'll stick with the Beeb, thanks.

 

[Mental Lental]

Five years ago I used to view the BBC as my go to source of news, that I could trust completely. However, objective coverage of Brexit based facts and figures started causing me cognitive dissonance so I decided to boycott the entire organisation and now use inwardly concocted examples of biased reporting (that don't exist) to justify my willful ignorance.

FTFY.

(Including your typos.)

 

[nwgull]

FTFY.

(Including your typos.)

I’m not quite sure of the provenance of the story - it may have been leave.eu - but if her husband being an employee at a non-profit organisation that receives some funding from the EU, amongst many other international institutions, has been the only thing they could find to discredit her, then she’s clearly very clean!

What amused me was that it was framed as something that was ‘uncovered’ by an investigator. The truth is that not only does Swinson’s husband (a former MP) have who he works for on his Twitter profile, but also links their website, which provides a full and transparent list of all the donations they receive (unlike Leave.eu or the Brexit Party Ltd).

It’s also concerning that this has been conflated, without any questioning, by rabid leavers into her receiving £4M direct into her current account to the extent that they’re convinced that the BBC is biased for not reporting it.

 

[Hastings gull]

That sounds like a conspiracy theory, it's really just the way Politician's operate when there isn't a shared vision and party discipline. They "brief".

At the moment the Cabinet is as leaky as a sieve because behind the facade of unity it's all very fragile. They don't trust Boris and Boris doesn't trust them, politically they are misfits.

The "price of Brexit" to the rest of the Cabinet is to allow Boris to make billions of promises to the country and gain the attention and popularity he desperately needs.

He's also keeping cabinet out of all the important Brexit decision making and they hear about them just a few hours before the press.

Raab and Truss are smiling through gritted teeth.

Are you a member of the Cabinet or a top civil servant attending the meetings? (and letting slip what should be behind closed doors!) If not, as I suspect is the case -how can you possibly be in a position to make such definitive statements?

 

[Wrong-Direction]

There is no such thing as impartiality, every thing you see/hear has been carefully selected for you

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[keaton]

Five years ago I used to view the BBC as my go to source of news, that I could trust completey. No longer. Completely biased, run by remainers, presenters are remainers, editors are remainers, lots of news getting buried.

Where is the headline news about Jo Swinson's husband receiving £4million from the EU for example? That makes a grope of a thigh 20 years ago look very insignificant but guess which one they're still banging on about!

What's the story though? As in why would this be news?

 

[schmunk]

What's the story though? As in why would this be news?

There is no story - the charity he works for has received €4M or so of EU donations, along with similar donations from individual country governments.

 

[clapham_gull]

For every "the mainstream news supports remain" posts on here or Twitter, I can point you to as many others that suggest the opposite.

In the modern world there are so many opinionated "news" sources, people can just read what they believe in on mass..

When they are confronted with something that doesn't support their beliefs (even when impartial), they cry foul.

It's disappointing that a moderator on here is confusing the two. I work with many professional "moderators" and frankly the one on here doesn't cut the mustard as one.

 

[clapham_gull]

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Are you a member of the Cabinet or a top civil servant attending the meetings? (and letting slip what should be behind closed doors!) If not, as I suspect is the case -how can you possibly be in a position to make such definitive statements?

We move in different circles.

 

[clapham_gull]

Where is the headline news about Jo Swinson's husband receiving £4million from the EU for example?

The bigger scandal of course being the farmers who received more, but voted Leave so I'm not quite sure what your point is.

 

[nickjhs]

Their is a clear agenda with what stories have comments open and free for debate and which ones aren't... ...

Care to show evidence for this.

 

[The Clamp]

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Five years ago I used to view the BBC as my go to source of news, that I could trust completey. No longer. Completely biased, run by remainers, presenters are remainers, editors are remainers, lots of news getting buried.

Where is the headline news about Jo Swinson's husband receiving £4million from the EU for example? That makes a grope of a thigh 20 years ago look very insignificant but guess which one they're still banging on about!

That’s purely because the BBC attracts the best in their field. Intelligent people with insight, comprehension and empathy. Genuinely.

I think the reason you liked it five years ago was because you didn’t give a toss about being in the EU before Farage et al got their hooks into you. You are not alone.

 

[nickjhs]

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That’s purely because the BBC attracts the best in their field. Intelligent people with insight, comprehension and empathy. Genuinely.

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This.^^^

We have the same issue here, the rednecks bitching that the ABC is a socialist organisation, when all that is actually going on is intelligent reporting that does not pander to the ill informed, ignorant, populist agenda. The phrase that I often trot out when I get into discussions with these people is "I think you'll find it is a bit more complicated than that"

 

[bWize]

99 dead... Really? Lets keep it at double figures...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49949262

 

[The Clamp]

Well I recall watching a debate on the BBC recently which included a reporter and he basically acknowledged that he thinks some reporters are doing that too (making up stuff and attributing it to unnamed sources).

“Basically acknowledged”. Sounds typically vague.

 

[Swansman]

In Sweden all the big newspapers, tv channels and so on tried allowing comments for a year or so but then removed it because people are animals. Like, if you open up for comments about anything even nodding the topic of immigration it is a 100% shitstorm waiting to happen. Add foreign and domestic professional trolls, people revealing secret information, people advertising their shit, people threatening eachother and so on...

Its just not worth it and it becomes very time consuming and expensive to deal with. And some subjects are going to eat a lot more time and money than others, so they definitely choose their battles - but in the end should just remove comments all together or just do it like the Russians and let people have their unmoderated shitstorm in the comments.

 

[dingodan]

“Basically acknowledged”. Sounds typically vague.

He said it outright actually.

 

[bazbha]

This.^^^

We have the same issue here, the rednecks bitching that the ABC is a socialist organisation, when all that is actually going on is intelligent reporting that does not pander to the ill informed, ignorant, populist agenda. The phrase that I often trot out when I get into discussions with these people is "I think you'll find it is a bit more complicated than that"

What might make things easier is if us working class, comprehensive school types weren't allowed to vote at all. You superiors could simply decide whats best for us. Maybe make us have symbols on our clothing so we can be easily identified as the inferiors that we are?