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[Cricket] The Ashes- England v Australia- 3rd Test, Headingley, July 06-10, 2023

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Eeyore

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dangull

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I just seen a video of the 1981 series Botham and Willis. 6 Tests in that era.
As this is the main reason for Test cricket, we should have 6 or 7 games this summer.
A Test match against Ireland or Bangledish is meaninglesss in comparison.
 


PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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Amazing ground these days is Headingley.

The old ground was, well, the old ground. With the shooting gallery behind the bowler's arm.

Not been there meself. I wonder if there is anything of the old pavilion left ?
Walking around it today I would say pretty much everything there is new from within the last 25 years, even the same applies to 3 of the 4 rugby league stands too. I first went there in 1984, it’s improved a lot since then.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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Amazing ground these days is Headingley.

The old ground was, well, the old ground. With the shooting gallery behind the bowler's arm.

Not been there meself. I wonder if there is anything of the old pavilion left ?
Walking around it today I would say pretty much everything there is new from within the last 25 years, even the same applies to 3 of the 4 rugby league stands too. I first went there in 1984, it’s improved a lot since then.
The old pavilion is still there tucked in between the football stand and the whatever the east stand is called. It's not like the pavilion was ever an impressive or interesting structure though.
It's a shame they couldn't have split Bramall Lane in the same way, that ground had a decent pavilion (and Sheffield has better pubs).
It's definitely improved, but I'm still annoyed they got rid of the Black Sheep bar under the old football stand, it's been Tetleys and whatever lager they do only in recent years.
 


Eeyore

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The old pavilion is still there tucked in between the football stand and the whatever the east stand is called. It's not like the pavilion was ever an impressive or interesting structure though.
It's a shame they couldn't have split Bramall Lane in the same way, that ground had a decent pavilion (and Sheffield has better pubs).
It's definitely improved, but I'm still annoyed they got rid of the Black Sheep bar under the old football stand, it's been Tetleys and whatever lager they do only in recent years.
It's good that folk recognise that it's often good to dispense with the old. I think the 20th century ground versions we have in cricket are very impressive. Aside of thankfully keeping some of the old pavilion structures, although not Headingley where county league clubs had better, the refurbs have been wonderful.

Of the test grounds, I've only been to Edgbaston (1992), Riverside (1995) , Lords (1992) and The Oval (2009). I actually drove to the Riverside and back in a day, getting up for Sunday cricket the following morning. That won't ever happen again. It was sweet then but will have changed much since.

The worst ground I ever went to I think was Northampton. But I won't be alone in that. I dare say it's different now.
 






Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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I just seen a video of the 1981 series Botham and Willis. 6 Tests in that era.
As this is the main reason for Test cricket, we should have 6 or 7 games this summer.
A Test match against Ireland or Bangledish is meaninglesss in comparison.
It's generally been a five match series throughout it's history - I think we had a spell when it was 6 in England but 5 still in Australia, don't know what the logic of that was. Then when we reverted to five again - I think we used to fit in a two test series, rather than just the one match like this year. Pretty sure we played the Aussies and the West Indies in one summer.
 


hans kraay fan club

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I just seen a video of the 1981 series Botham and Willis. 6 Tests in that era.
As this is the main reason for Test cricket, we should have 6 or 7 games this summer.
A Test match against Ireland or Bangledish is meaninglesss in comparison.
Not to Ireland or Bangladesh, it isn’t 🤷‍♂️
 




PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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I just seen a video of the 1981 series Botham and Willis. 6 Tests in that era.
As this is the main reason for Test cricket, we should have 6 or 7 games this summer.
A Test match against Ireland or Bangledish is meaninglesss in comparison.
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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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It's generally been a five match series throughout it's history - I think we had a spell when it was 6 in England but 5 still in Australia
The 1970/71 Ashes was a seven-match series (although one test was abandoned without a ball being bowled). The Aussie board made way for another game in the series: that wouldn't happen now, they'd be too interesting in prioritising the 100
 


PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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The 1970/71 Ashes was a seven-match series (although one test was abandoned without a ball being bowled). The Aussie board made way for another game in the series: that wouldn't happen now, they'd be too interesting in prioritising the 100
Is that the famous one where they had Aussie umpires and we didn’t get a single LBW decision in the entire series? I’m sure Glenn McGrath would be able to spin that somehow! (maybe he should have replaced Nathan Lyon in the team!)
 




Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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It's good that folk recognise that it's often good to dispense with the old. I think the 20th century ground versions we have in cricket are very impressive. Aside of thankfully keeping some of the old pavilion structures, although not Headingley where county league clubs had better, the refurbs have been wonderful.

Of the test grounds, I've only been to Edgbaston (1992), Riverside (1995) , Lords (1992) and The Oval (2009). I actually drove to the Riverside and back in a day, getting up for Sunday cricket the following morning. That won't ever happen again. It was sweet then but will have changed much since.

The worst ground I ever went to I think was Northampton. But I won't be alone in that. I dare say it's different now.
It depends what you want from the ground. We went to Southport a few weeks ago. That hasn’t changed in decades, if ever. There’s a pavilion and the rest of the ground is temporary seating for its week of Lancashire cricket. The bigger grounds needed makeovers though. I went to Lords in the 1970s and it was much improved on my last visit in 2016. Went to Headingly in 1980 but didn’t see a ball bowled and we hid from the rain and ate our picnic in the rugby ground. Old Trafford seems to be a work in progress from visits in the last couple of seasons.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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It's good that folk recognise that it's often good to dispense with the old. I think the 20th century ground versions we have in cricket are very impressive. Aside of thankfully keeping some of the old pavilion structures, although not Headingley where county league clubs had better, the refurbs have been wonderful.

Of the test grounds, I've only been to Edgbaston (1992), Riverside (1995) , Lords (1992) and The Oval (2009). I actually drove to the Riverside and back in a day, getting up for Sunday cricket the following morning. That won't ever happen again. It was sweet then but will have changed much since.

The worst ground I ever went to I think was Northampton. But I won't be alone in that. I dare say it's different now.
If they'd finished the Riverside when you were there, I think it will be pretty much the same now. The only notable difference will be that the temporary stand on the Lumley Castle side is there all the time now (but often doesn't have any actual seats I'm it).
I think Wantage Road is also the worst I've been to. Grace Road is pretty uninspiring as well but it was a nice sunny day and I like Leicester more than Northampton anyway.
The only test ground in Britain I've not been to is the Rose Bowl, which I've no intention of changing any time soon.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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Is that the famous one where they had Aussie umpires and we didn’t get a single LBW decision in the entire series? I’m sure Glenn McGrath would be able to spin that somehow! (maybe he should have replaced Nathan Lyon in the team!)
Just to be boring about this for a minute, I believe Australia were only awarded a single lbw over the whole series, which suggests a severe bout of not-outism rather than conspiracy.
 




Eeyore

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The 1970/71 Ashes was a seven-match series (although one test was abandoned without a ball being bowled). The Aussie board made way for another game in the series: that wouldn't happen now, they'd be too interesting in prioritising the 100
I think five Tests is about right. I remember when it was 6 Tests. That stopped in 2001 against Australia. Some might argue to stop prolonging our agony. We did play Pakistan in two Tests that year. I quite like summers where there are two touring sides. So I wonder if that was it. Don't know.
 




Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Noises are Hazlewood in for Boland for the Aussies.
 










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