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Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
I can't see much wrong with the story itself, although the subject matter was never going to be pleasant. It reads like a normal court report.
 


Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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Well that's wrong for a start; she was killed in Brighton.
Yes, that's a perfectly understandable error when a headline (or story) doesn't use the use the definite article.

TBF to the Argus though it's often missed out, often along with pronouns. The sentence "The reality star Kim Kardashain and her former husband Kanye West" in tabloids will often be written as "Reality star Kim Kardashain and former husband Kanye West".
 








drew

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Yes, that's a perfectly understandable error when a headline (or story) doesn't use the use the definite article.

TBF to the Argus though it's often missed out, often along with pronouns. The sentence "The reality star Kim Kardashain and her former husband Kanye West" in tabloids will often be written as "Reality star Kim Kardashain and former husband Kanye West".

I'm pretty certain most people reading will understand exactly what is being referred to in either statement.
 


amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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Argus should give up as a daily paper. I live in Hassosks now and Mid Sx Times as a once a week paper covers everything including local news, property and sport. Eastbourne Herald does the same. Argus should revert to the same as a Brighton and surrounding area weekly
 


Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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Gents apologies if I’ve offended, upset or annoyed anyone on here over the this, it was the front cover of todays print edition that I thought was both unnecessary and in bad taste, maybe I’m from a different generation from a number of others.

I had known the lady in question and her family for a number of years, and frankly in my opinion they, and the lady’s memory, all deserve better from the local press regardless of the ‘newsworthiness’ of the tragic events.
 






Seagull58

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Jan 31, 2012
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The French word restaurateur comes from the Late Latin term restaurator ("restorer") and from the Latin term restaurare.[1][2][3] The word restaurateur is simply French for a person who owns or runs a restaurant.[4] The feminine form of the French noun is restauratrice.[5]

A less common variant spelling restauranteur is formed from the "more familiar" term restaurant[6] with the French suffix -eur borrowed from restaurateur. It is considered a misspelling by some.[4][6] The Oxford English Dictionary gives examples of this variant (described as "originally American") going back to 1837.[7] H. L. Mencken said that in using this form he was using an American, not a French, word.[8]
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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If it's what I think it was then there are two correct versions and the Argus used the most common:

https://grammarist.com/spelling/restaurateur

On the whole subject in total, there's not much specific in the OP but, looking at the headline it is both a touch graphic and, without a "the" you can make the bath / Bath mistake.

Overall it's just such a shame. That family were pivotal to the town and did so much for the football club.
Like loyalty to the club/town would make a difference - isn't it now slung together down in Southampton?
 






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Gents apologies if I’ve offended, upset or annoyed anyone on here over the this, it was the front cover of todays print edition that I thought was both unnecessary and in bad taste, maybe I’m from a different generation from a number of others.

I had known the lady in question and her family for a number of years, and frankly in my opinion they, and the lady’s memory, all deserve better from the local press regardless of the ‘newsworthiness’ of the tragic events.

You haven't offended anyone. We simply can't work out why you're offended. It's news. It's a newspaper. The headline is factually correct. :shrug:
 




The Clamp

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I decided to take a look.

1 The have really cleaned up the website - genuinely surprised and offering an advert free subscription.
2 The Sue Aldis murder trial reporting is not prominent, although it may have been splashed across the paper. It seems they are reporting on the trial, which is not something you can really pretty up.

In summary I haven't seen the paper, but will check the website over the next few days and decide if I want to subscribe. It looks more like a turning point for the Argus to me and nothing like some of the seriously low points they have hit in recent years.

Why subscribe? Go onto Private Browsing and read as many poorly written opinion pieces, out of date traffic updates and adverts for Rockwater disguised as news articles as you like. Steal, don’t subscribe, dear boy.
 


Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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And of course the pink Sports Edition on Saturday evening.

One of the small sights no longer seen at football stadiums, man in mortorcycle helmet legging it with a roll of film at half time, to go get it developed and into the paper.
 


lasvegan

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Jan 30, 2009
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I subscribe to The Argus and think it’s okay. Is there something better out there for Brighton and Hove ex-pats to read? I’m truly interested to know…

I apologize if there are any splelling mistakes.
 


HastingsSeagull

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Jan 13, 2010
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I can only think of one answer to the above question regarding Sussex ex-pats suggested reading material and news source. It’s generally better written, has less adverts and the split/share of content leans towards football and what middle aged plus men care to bother with. As you’re here on NSC you can probably guess what I’m talking about.
 




John Byrnes Mullet

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Oct 4, 2004
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Brighton
The Argus is one of the few local daily news papers that has survived.
I remember when there was the morning version and the final Evening Argus.
The website is a mess with adverts but it is free.
For me it would be sad not to see a daily Argus anymore but I guess it will happen in my lifetime.
I still feel an affection to the Argus and it's an easy to give criticism to a paper in the day of the internet that should have not survived.
 


Brovion

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I'm pretty certain most people reading will understand exactly what is being referred to in either statement.
Yes That's why they miss them out because the sentence can still be interpreted correctly, and in the second example I gave still makes sense. As you say most will have understood the headline without the definite article, but some may take it as spoken: "Did you hear a woman was stabbed to death in Bath?" Certainly there's enough ambiguity for someone to make a, poor taste, joke about it.
 


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