[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

[Crawley Dingo]

They couldn't replicate it though - and her ballot was correct.

Laurel Co. pulls ballot-marking machine after viral video claims Trump vote went to Harris

The county clerk says his office could not re-create the alleged glitch, but the attorney general will investigate the machine.

www.yahoo.com

Did you see the one where they were complaining that Trump was 'too far down' the list of candidates and therefore that was somehow cheating as well because voters had to look for his name rather than having it immediately visible near the top (it was in alphabetical order).

Thats how it works in Australia.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

No you didn't:

yea I did, earlier than that.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Has there ever been a VP with more pre-VP experience than Kamala Harris? Her CV is absolutely incredible. The slightly clumsy way young Joe spoke about wanting a VP who was non-White and female has been exaggerated for effect by the willfully ignorant right but the fact remains that Kamala Harris the individual, rather than the caricature, is incredibly qualified for that role. She will be an excellent president, even more so if she has a functioning Senate and House of Representatives.

Of course though, should the worst happen, we know that Trump/Republicans believe the VP can do whatever they want when it comes to certifying the election result. And the sitting president can do whatever they want...

Pure chutzpah.

 

[Bodian]

From the great man himself

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/joe-biden-potential-vp-pick/index.html

Former Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday that when picking a running mate, he would prefer someone who was “of color and/or a different gender.”


“Whomever I pick, preferably it will be someone who was of color and/or a different gender, but I’m not making that commitment until I know that the person I’m dealing with I can completely and thoroughly trust as authentic and on the same page [as me],” Biden said while speaking to a roundtable of black journalists.

"I’m not making that commitment until I know that the person I’m dealing with I can completely and thoroughly trust as authentic and on the same page [as me]"

ie: he's picking the right candidate for him. If that candidate is black and/or female, great. But he is not saying 'I am only going to pick someone female and/or black' - which is what you are trying to make out.

 

[Bodian]

Thats how it works in Australia.

You mean Aussies can understand alphabetical order - but Trumpists can't?

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

You mean Aussies can understand alphabetical order - but Trumpists can't?

Most of them cannot read or write

 

[Withdean South Stand]

Most of them cannot read or write

Aussies, Trumpiacs, or both?!

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Aussies, Trumpiacs, or both?!

Sorry , I was talking about Trumpies

 

[carlzeiss]

"I’m not making that commitment until I know that the person I’m dealing with I can completely and thoroughly trust as authentic and on the same page [as me]"

ie: he's picking the right candidate for him. If that candidate is black and/or female, great. But he is not saying 'I am only going to pick someone female and/or black' - which is what you are trying to make out.

Joe Biden Definitively Vows to Pick a Woman Vice President

In the first one-on-one Democratic primary debate Sunday, former Vice President Joe Biden vowed to pick a woman Vice President.

time.com

President Joe Biden vowed to pick a woman Vice President and promised to appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court. When asked about his plans for a running mate, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said that “in all likelihood” he would also pick a woman, but that his running mate would be a progressive.

“I commit that if I’m elected President and I have an opportunity to appoint someone to the courts, I’ll appoint the first black woman to the Court,” said Vice President Biden, meaning the Supreme Court. “If I’m elected President, my cabinet and my administration will look like the country, and I commit that I will in fact pick a woman to be Vice President. There are a number of women who are qualified to be president tomorrow. I would pick a woman to be my vice president.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/23/politics/joe-biden-running-mate-kamala-harris-second-term-president/index.html

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden says he did not feel pressure to select a Black woman as his running mate, describing to ABC the motive behind choosing California Sen. Kamala Harris.


“No, I didn’t feel pressure to select a Black woman,” Biden told ABC’s Robin Roberts in a newly-released clip from a joint interview with Harris set to air in full Sunday night. “But I - what I do think and I’ve said it before, and you’ve heard me say it. I’ve probably said it on your show with you, is that the government should look like the people, look like the country.”


“Fifty-one percent of the people in this country are women,” he continued. “As that old expression goes, women hold up half the sky, and in order to be able to succeed, you’ve got to be dealt in across the board, and no matter what you say, you cannot, I cannot understand and fully appreciate what it means to walk in her shoes, to be an African American woman, with a Indian American background, child of immigrants.”

 

[sparkie]

Christ this thread has become a diversity bore-fest.

The ignore button is starting to look tempting if I'm forced to read much more of that tedium.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Christ this thread has become a diversity bore-fest.

The ignore button is starting to look tempting if I'm forced to read much more of that tedium.

Thanks for sharing

 

[US Seagull]

They couldn't replicate it though - and her ballot was correct.

Laurel Co. pulls ballot-marking machine after viral video claims Trump vote went to Harris

The county clerk says his office could not re-create the alleged glitch, but the attorney general will investigate the machine.

www.yahoo.com

Did you see the one where they were complaining that Trump was 'too far down' the list of candidates and therefore that was somehow cheating as well because voters had to look for his name rather than having it immediately visible near the top (it was in alphabetical order).

So I don't know how it works elsewhere, but in Ohio, they rotate the order of the candidates on the ballot from precinct to precinct. They are alphabetical, but, for example, in my city in precinct 1-A, Harris is at the top of the ballot and Richard Duncan (who? I don't know either) is at the bottom. In the next precinct, 1-B, Duncan moves to the top, Harris moves to second (Trump ends up last on that one), in the next precinct, Trump will end up on top. And so on.

The idea is to make it fairer because of the perception that people will favor voting for the first option. This is probably less of an issue for president, I would imagine, but for some non-partisan judge election where a lot of people might not have bothered looking up the candidates, it could have an impact.

 

[Triggaaar]

Thanks for sharing

Damn straight brother. Who needs to know when we use our ignore button eh.

 

[Bob!]

I enjoyed reading this explainer of who needs to win which states to get to the magic 270.

BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-0dfcfee6-7d9f-4d20-a07e-aa7b85dc56bd
Path to 270: The states Harris and Trump need to win - BBC News

 

[GT49er]

you left out the word racist, in racist idiot.........

No. Had I wished to add an adjective to what I considered was already an adequate description, i.e. 'idiot', I would probably have chosen 'dangerous'. Demented or despicable would have done too. Or fascist. Or just 'piece of shite' instead of 'idiot'.....................

 

[Mellotron]

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

The Republicans won the Senate in 2014 - anyone as liberal as Ginsburg would not have been confirmed- she would have had to resign in 2013 while she was at the pinnacle of her judicial career and her mind exceptional sharp if it was to be guaranteed Obama could have replaced her with another liberal candidate.

Even then, it is a bit of a myth to think the Republicans would have confirmed any candidate Obama would put forward under his administration as the Merrick Garland debacle over Anton Scalia’s death in February 2016 proved.

’In an interview with Elle Magazine in the fall of 2014, she said that “anybody who thinks that if I step down, Obama could appoint someone like me, they’re misguided.” No one as liberal as she was could get confirmed, she suggested.

RBG was not the sort of women to be told what to do by anyone and in 2013 she was at the pinnacle of her career, the most popular Justice on the Court amongst the public and a staunch egalitarian when it came to the rights of women and LBQGT. Why on earth should one of the most pioneering justices of the Supreme Court in history be told by a bunch of men in Washington to resign because Congress is so bipartisan and fcuked up?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/magazine/ginsburg-successor-obama.html

I still agree with one of the commentators in the Politico article that her hubris in remaining so long is at least partly responsible for the current makeup of SCOTUS

 

[chip]

So I don't know how it works elsewhere, but in Ohio, they rotate the order of the candidates on the ballot from precinct to precinct. They are alphabetical, but, for example, in my city in precinct 1-A, Harris is at the top of the ballot and Richard Duncan (who? I don't know either) is at the bottom. In the next precinct, 1-B, Duncan moves to the top, Harris moves to second (Trump ends up last on that one), in the next precinct, Trump will end up on top. And so on.

The idea is to make it fairer because of the perception that people will favor voting for the first option. This is probably less of an issue for president, I would imagine, but for some non-partisan judge election where a lot of people might not have bothered looking up the candidates, it could have an impact.

Do they states with swingers ever change? I suppose I am asking if you get a feel for any surprises.

 

[peterward]

The corrupt supreme Court and what they just did in Virginia to purge voters thus violating federal election law.

Great article and truly frightening.

The Supreme Court Just Carved an Outrageous Loophole Into a Major Voting Rights Law

It’s now open season on the voter rolls.

slate.com

 

[BN41Albion]

The corrupt supreme Court and what they just did in Virginia to purge voters thus violating federal election law.

Great article and truly frightening.

The Supreme Court Just Carved an Outrageous Loophole Into a Major Voting Rights Law

It’s now open season on the voter rolls.

slate.com

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@Crawley Dingo 'the cheating has started'