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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 147 39.2%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 207 55.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 18 4.8%

  • Total voters
    375
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Kuipers Supporters Club

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The most accurate 2020 pollster back with the final poll in the 7.


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Hugo Rune

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The most accurate 2020 pollster back with the final poll in the 7.


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The question on that poll is very strange indeed.

It might indicate support for a Presidential candidate but it does not the commit the person who answered the question to confirm whether the ‘will’ vote, only ‘would’ vote.

This is critical because Trump’s core supporters (working class, white and heterosexual men) don’t have a good record for turning out and voting.
 


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Cant profess to know all the finer details of the US system tbh, but Trump controlling both houses of congress would be a diaster and give him unrestrained power. Ive read most likely (about a week ago) was both houses would flip, Senate from Dem to Gop and House from Gop to Dem?

There is still a fair bit the President can do by executive order and no doubt also at state level with Republican govenors who will be pressured to comply with Trumps agenda.

I'm really quite worried about the supreme court who have gone almost entirely rogue and the 6-3 Conservative majortiy are totally partisan and are dishing out Trump wins on anything thats put in front of them, allowing all slow rolling attempts of his federal cases pre election, granting him almost full immunity for anything he did while president (which would effectively excuse him from having rivals killed when President), from allowing Pennsylvnia objections to be fast tracked and given favourably to Trump, and just yesterday they intervened at Short notice in Virgina case and have gone against federal election law to favour Trump. (Virgina republicans tried to disqualify/purge 1600 registered voters from election rolls, over 3 weeks later than the minimum time frame prior to an election that any such purges could be made - and many voters are allegedly genuine with some form of easily resolvable mistake), they left it till after the deadline, tried to remove them on masse, it was overturned on the 5th circuit as against Federal election law, and now yesterday the Supreme court has overturned the 5th circuit and is allowing Virginia to remove the 1600.
It stinks of corruption and as the last bastion of any potential Stop the Steal coup attempt, I have zero faith in their impartiality or following of the law.

Can the Supreme court going rogue, be arrested or stopped somehow is the big question?
The current numbers mimic the presidential election. The Republicans have about a 55% of keeping the House and flipping the Senate. (The 2 independent senators “conference with the Democrats” and reliably vote with them) … moderate Americans (I am one) cheer for a split Congress… we don’t mind gridlock because both sides are too extreme. For example, we don’t want Harris tax rates- nor Trumps. Just leave them in between. We don’t want open borders, nor the Trump policies… etc. just enforce current laws and stop grandstanding. So- not every American wants their party to dominate the other.
 


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Atlas Intel is a Brazilian pollster ranked number one by a Hungarian newspaper (from what I can find)… with all due respect, most pundits in the US look to the neutral data scientists at Nate Silver (and his former 538) … they rate Atlas fairly highly- but 22nd overall…
 

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Greg Bobkin

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He Promised to pick a woman VP it was a black woman to the supreme court, my error but point still stands a Diversity hire.
Pretty facking big - and obvious - 'error'.

A gaffe like that from the other side and you would be frothing before you could say "insane asylum".

What's the problem with having a female VP, anyway? The whole point that the position has gone to blokes up until Harris is an issue in itself!
 










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All the celebrities who have endorsed Trump for president, from Elon Musk to Harrison Butker​


Here's your chance to boycott those dumb enough to endorse Trump.

Jason Aldean

Following the first attempted assassination of Trump in July, country star Jason Aldean, 47, posted the now-famous photo of Trump with a bloodied ear raising a fist in defiance, writing: “This is what a warrior looks like. This is my guy.”

He then dedicated his controversial hit, “Try That in a Small Town,” to the Republican nominee at a Nashville, Tennessee concert. “President Trump’s a friend of mine so I want to send this next song out to him,” he told the crowd.


Kodak Black

Rapper Kodak Black, 27, paused a September concert to address the former president’s allegations that Haitian immigrants are eating pets in Ohio while also reaffirming his support of Trump.

“That s*** crazy,” he said to the crowd. “I’m gonna go to Springfield tomorrow, I’m going over there. I’ve got to. I gotta see this s***. I ain’t smelling that. I say ‘Vote for Trump’, I say that, but I ain’t see no Haitian eat no cat, homie.”


Russell Brand

On a June episode of his self-hosted Stay Free with Russell Brand podcast, the contentious British actor and comedian, 49, told listeners that if “you care about freedom, I don’t know how you could do anything other than vote for Donald Trump for precisely the reasons that they claim that you can’t.”

Harrison Butker

The controversial Kansas City Chief kicker, Harrison Butker, 29, publicly announced his support of Trump on an early October segment of Fox’s The Ingraham Angle show, saying: “I think Donald Trump is the most pro-life president.”

Butker, who is a devout Catholic, has been outspoken about his anti-abortion stance. At Benedictine College’s 2024 graduation, he declared “abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media” were a byproduct of “the pervasiveness of disorder.”


Jim Caviezel

Person of Interest star Jim Caviezel, 56, who previously declared Trump “the new Moses,” put his full support behind the candidate in July, tweeting: “I fully endorse Trump for President of the United States 2024.”

Savannah Chrisley

Reality TV star Savannah Chrisley, 27, spoke at the mid-July Republican National Convention (RNC), pledging her support for Trump.

“Donald J Trump has only one conviction that matters,” she told attendees. “And that is his conviction to make America great again.”


Joe Exotic

The Tiger King star and convicted felon Joe Exotic, 61, officially suspended his presidential candidacy in August to “fully Endorse Trump for 2024.”

“He has been my man for years,” he wrote on X in August. “Harris will get us all killed if Biden doesn't sooner.”


Brett Favre

NFL Hall of Famer Brett Favre, who supported Trump in 2020, appeared in a local Pennsylvania TV ad endorsing him once again this year.

“Just look at the situation today,” he said in the ad. “Pennsylvania, we can’t take a chance. We need a strong leader, and I believe Donald Trump is the right choice to protect our families and restore world peace. So join me and vote Trump.”

The former Green Bay Packer quarterback, 55, is expected to campaign with Trump at his Wednesday (October 30) rally in Wisconsin.


Mel Gibson

Braveheart actor Mel Gibson, 68, made headlines last week after he voiced his support of Trump while bashing Harris, saying she’s “got the IQ of a fence post.”

“I know what it’ll be like if we let her in. And that ain’t good. Miserable track record. No policies to speak of,” he told TMZ.


Kelsey Grammar

Kelsey Grammer – best known for his title role on the classic sitcom Frasier and its new reboot – disappointed some fans when first revealed he was pro-Trump during a 2019 Radio 4 appearance.

In a more recent interview with the BBC in 2023, Grammer brusquely confirmed he remained a supporter of Trump. The interviewer later claimed that a Paramount PR person prevented Grammer from talking any further about Trump, despite the actor being “perfectly happy” to do so.


Hulk Hogan

Former professional wrestler Hulk Hogan took the stage alongside Trump at his recent New York City rally at Madison Square Garden.

The 71-year-old made his entrance to his “Real American” theme song while waving the American flag. He then attempted to rip his shirt from his own chest, a routine that he has done since the 1980s. However, he ended up getting into a tussel with the shirt, prompting mockery online.


Victoria Jackson

Saturday Night Live alum Victoria Jackson, 65, implored her fans to “vote Trump” in an Instagram video shared on October 24, calling it a “no-brainer.”

“I’m pro-life, I believe in secure borders, law and order, I believe in our taxpayer money going to help our citizens who just got hit by the hurricanes not house illegals in apartments and feed them,” she said. “I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of religion and I do not believe in global Marxism.


Kanye West

The problematic rapper has once again thrown his support behind Trump. When asked by papparazzi in February if he would be voting for the former president, 47-year-old West said: “Yeah, of course, it’s Trump all day.”

Zachary Levi

Shazam! star Zachary Levi endorsed Trump for president after his first choice, Robert F Kennedy Jr, dropped out of the race in August.

“We’re here to make sure that we are going to take back this country, we are going to make it great again, we are going to make it healthy again,” he said at Trump’s Michigan rally the following month. “President Trump is the man that can get us there.”


Dr Phil McGraw

Also joining Trump at his MSG rally was Dr Phil McGraw, the popular psychologist and sociologist, who endeared TV viewers for years on his eponymous Dr Phil talk show.

Appearing in front of thousands of attendees, McGraw, 74, gave an impassioned speech, saying that he was “not here just to stand up for Donald J Trump. Lord knows he doesn’t need me to stand up for him. He’s tough as an old army boot. He’s got lots of enemies, different groups that are scared, and between them, they have impeached him, indicted him, raided him, railroaded him, shot him and sued him. And where is he? He is still standing.”


Elon Musk (might end up in jail for illegal lottery)

Tech billionaire and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has already donated over $75m to the Trump campaign. He has also made several guest appearances at Trump rallies, going viral earlier this month for jumping up and down on stage at a Pennysylvania event.

“I think this election is the most important election of our lifetime. This is no ordinary election,” Musk, 53, told rallygoers. “President Trump must win to preserve the Constitution. He must win to preserve democracy in America. This is a must win situation, must win.”


Danica Patrick

Last week, former NASCAR and IndyCar driver Danica Patrick took to social media to celebrate her first time voting.

“I made a rule for myself that if I didn’t vote I could not have an opinion about the outcome, because I didn’t earn that right,” the 42-year-old Sky F1 pundit wrote on Instagram. “Not this time. I voted for @realdonaldtrump and I can’t wait to have him make America great again!”


Dennis Quaid

The Parent Trap star Dennis Quaid declared his support for Trump at an October 12 California rally.

“We were a nation in decline. That’s what they told us. Ronald Reagan came along and said, no, we’re not a nation in decline. We’re going there. And we followed him,” Quaid, 70, told the crowd, pointing upwards. “The same with Trump, with President Trump. My favorite president of the 21st century.”


Kid Rock

Perhaps one of Trump’s most loyal supporters has been country singer Kid Rock, who’s appeared alongside him at several of his rallies.

Ahead of the RNC, in which he performed his 2000 hit “American Bad Ass,” the “All Summer Long” singer, 53, tweeted a video of himself, saying: “We just touched down in Milwaukee to support our tried and true, red white and blue, 100% American badass president… God bless Donald Trump and God bless America.”


Rob Schneider

On Sunday (October 27), Democrat-turned-Republican Rob Schneider proudly endorsed Trump on X.

“I PROUDLY SUPPORT DONALD J TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!” The Hot Chick actor and comedian, 60, wrote in all caps.


Jon Voight

Trump’s friend and longtime supporter Jon Voight has continually urged fellow Americans to vote red.

“My fellow Americans, we are now in a time of the darkest plague ever, and our chance – our only chance – is this November to vote for the President of the United States of America Donald J Trump for 2024,” the Midnight Cowboy actor, 85, said in a recent video posted to X.

He further accused his Hollywood peers of trying to “brainwash” the American people to “do the most dangerous vote ever – Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.” Slamming the Democratic ticket as the most “vile” and “corrupt” choice, he added: “You must see the lie and vote for the only one who will save our country and make her safe again, thrive again and bloom again – Donald J Trump.”

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What I don't get about the Supreme Court is that Trump was able to load it with Right Wingers, so why hasn't Biden put more Moderate judge's in there?

Obama nominated the current attorney general, Merrick Garland, who happened to work at the same law firm in Washington DC, Arnold & Porter, as my sister, for the Supreme Court but the Republican leader of the US Senate, Mitch McConnell, refused to hold a vote on Garland using the reason that it was too close to an election while later allowing a vote on Judge Barrett that was closer to an election than Garland's nomination. The problems and make up of SCOTUS can all be blamed on Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell. He is now retiring from the Senate but this will only bring in an even worse Republican if the GOP keep control of the Senate.


A native of the Chicago area, Garland attended Harvard University and Harvard Law School, where he was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. He served as a law clerk to Judge Henry Friendly of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and to U.S. Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan Jr., and then practiced corporate litigation at Arnold & Porter, after which he worked as a federal prosecutor in the United States Department of Justice, where he supervised the investigation and prosecution of the Oklahoma City bombers.
 
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That's not going to impact the election. Trump supporters will call it lies from a scum journalist.

Amazingly he is right...he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and people would still vote for him.
 


















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