[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

[US Seagull]

It is a complete myth.

There was a half wit who used to post on here, now banned, who referred to anyone who fell outside his narrow circle as 'Trained Marxists' - a term he read on a fake news site.

That's what we are up against.

Exactly. It's not just that the Republicans have moved far to the right, they've also pushed this bullshit narrative that the left are the ones who are extreme. It's simply not true. See above with Trump claiming that Harris DEMANDS executing babies.

I mean, FFS.

 

[North Carolina Supporter]

What did they do to enrage you so?

I am “the left” in America. I am trying to explain to (mostly) British- how Trump could possibly win the presidency. It is due to the fact that the majority of moderates have voted against Kamala Harris. NOT in favor of Trump- but against the Democratic policies. The surprising factor to observers like me- 40 years of voting- is the animosity that many “in the middle” have for the Democrats. their hatred of certain left-wing policies has overcome their own personal ethics and morals - they will vote for a spray-tan con man over a law abiding former prosecutor… bot because they like Trump- but because they hate the policies that Kamala Harris will enact or protect. It’s delusional- on a massive scale, but that is what is happening to the former “moderate republicans” and “conservative democrats” … this shift is not being covered by the US press

 

[North Carolina Supporter]

I'm sorry, but what is 'the left' of which you speak? Because when I hear Americans talk about marxists, communists and the far left, and then look at the democrat party, I think, 'Huh??'
Interested to hear also what it is that 'the left' has done to 'enrage' millions of people.

In the US, the “left” is oversimplified to mean anyone who is a Democrat. Anyone who believes in progressive tax policies, global warming, gun control, equal pay for equal work, more abortion access, etc.

The “far left” are the fringe parties in the US- Green and Socialists - maybe 2% of the voters combined. (The grand total of Marxist and communists in the US is a fraction of a fraction.)

The Right is anyone who reliably votes Republican. They want lower taxes first and foremost, more military spending is next, Second Amendment protection, closed borders to immigration, less environmental rules, more restrictions on abortions, etc.

30 years ago, the US was nearly equally divided- 1/3rd liberal or “left” 1/3rd moderate or middle and 1/3rd conservative or “right” … that has all changed. The extremes on the right and left have taken over - the moderates have lost nearly every primary. The middle has no one to represent us.

My point is that Trump is winning over more of the middle than anyone anticipated… and the reason for this is NOT because they like Trump. The reason is that many moderates have grown weary of the left. My point is this- half of Trump’s support is really just people who are protesting the other side- not supporting Trump. They don’t like him- they just want to show their anger at the left for the open borders, higher taxes, bigger government, etc. Trump found an audience with these divisive issues… it’s the great chasm in America. trump has been successful at dividing the country because he thinks he can get 51% of the vote … sadly, this is what is happening… I fear his strategy is working.