[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

For some time on this thread, I read de-jewed as de-jeweled and was totally puzzled. Now i know what it is, I rather wish it had been that.

 

[Triggaaar]

Ridiculous comment.

It's satire based on the fact that some people in the US will accuse people of being communists simply because they want to help others.

 

[Triggaaar]

Biden didn’t disagree though did he

Biden wasn't president when Trump made the decision to withdraw. While Trump was in charge, he made the orders that made it clear it was going to be a shit show. He got troops out, and made it so that the ones left weren't going to be able to defend themselves.

he went all in, including giving up all weapons and an air base. Who’s shit show was it?

Mainly Trump's

 

[Triggaaar]

Or how about a debate on CNN, with a network and moderators who despise him? Who won that one?

Who won what? If Harris said she'd debate Trump on CNN or not at all, you'd have a point. But she's happy to debate him on a more balanced network.

I think she’s the one who is running scared.

How so? She's ready to debate him, but he says he'll only do it on Fox.

Trump says he'll skip an ABC debate with Harris, wants to face off on Fox News

In social media posts late Friday, Trump said his agreement to a Sept. 10 debate “has been terminated” because he'll no longer face President Joe Biden.

whyy.org

Trump Fans Furious Over His “Coward” Decision on Kamala Debate

Even Donald Trump’s most loyal fans think he made the wrong call on whether to debate Kamala Harris.

newrepublic.com

Opinion | Why the Sept. 10 debate is shaping up to be a win-win for Kamala Harris

Trump is chickening out of an agreed-upon debate. Harris is responding wisely.

www.msnbc.com

 

[Triggaaar]

You think of the Democratic Party as centrists, while I see them leaning far left (which they are).

The policies of the Democratic Party are to the right of the policies of the Conservative Party in the UK. We have a much more generous welfare system here, with decent free healthcare and education for all (always something we want to improve, but try comparing us with the US). The suggestion that the Democrats are far left is for the birds.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

The policies of the Democratic Party are to the right of the policies of the Conservative Party in the UK. We have a much more generous welfare system here, with free decent free healthcare and education for all (always something we want to improve, but try comparing us with the US). The suggestion that the Democrats are far left is for the birds.

Well yes And there's no suggestion they are going to stop people owning assault rifles or abolish the death penalty. The description of the Democrats as "Far left" showing an alarming inability to apply even basic critical analysis skills

 

[Bodian]

Or how about a debate on CNN, with a network and moderators who despise him? Who won that one? I think she’s the one who is running scared.

Can't see the relevance - that wasn't a debate Harris was involved in.

 

[de la zouch]

Well yes And there's no suggestion they are going to stop people owning assault rifles or abolish the death penalty. The description of the Democrats as "Far left" showing an alarming inability to apply even basic critical analysis skills

As a student of politics and someone who lived in the US, I believe you are partly correct. However you too show an inability to apply even basic critical analysis skills. The Democratic Party is the definition of a very broad church. The “squad” are far left in every way, however Biden was centre right. Just to clarify id be voting democrat at this election even though im not sold on KH

 

[de la zouch]

Not sure who you are calling far right? If it was me I’m sorry you couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Proud Zionist- yes 100%
Far right - no 100%
If I was of that ilk I’d be saying I was offended

 

[One Love]

I see myself as an average American (I have been a citizen now for 25 years) who wants nothing but the best for my wife, kids and grandkids to live as freely as possible, with as little government interference as possible. The American dream if you like. People on here think of me as a fascist.

I think you make a couple of good points, it could just be a matter of perspective.

I see myself as an average American (I have been a citizen now for 25 years) who wants nothing but the best for my wife, kids and grandkids to live as freely as possible, with as little government interference as possible. The American dream if you like. People on here think of me as a fascist.

You think of the Democratic Party as centrists, while I see them leaning far left (which they are). There are people on here that are socialists, communists, etc., certainly no fascists, but maybe most posters are much more centrist than we give each other credit for.

So your caring only goes as far as your wife, kids and grandkids and no further?

And you consider this as what an average (normal) citizen feels?

And that doesn't make you right of centre at all?

 

[Withdean South Stand]

I am looking forward to the speeches at the DNC in a couple of weeks - the contrast between that vision for the future and the fearmongering, hate and division from the mentalists at the RNC will be as stark as it can be. The Democrats have all the charisma and policies, the Republicans just have unhinged lunatics.

 

[rogersix]

You think of the Democratic Party as centrists, while I see them leaning far left (which they are).

From your perspective

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I watched a bit of Harris and Walz.

America. You have no excuse.

Now, i'm sure that both individuals are flawed, imperfect and have made mistakes during their long careers. I'm sure there will be the odd policy not to everyone's taste

But they are obviously capable and would govern in their nations interest.

Choice A) Harris. Who would be decent at worst and may turn out to be very good

Choice B) A malignant oaf, filled with hatred and surrounding himself with conspiracy theorists.

When Biden was running, I admit voters had some reason to vote for Trump. America has no excuse now.

 

[dsr-burnley]

So your caring only goes as far as your wife, kids and grandkids and no further?

And you consider this as what an average (normal) citizen feels?

And that doesn't make you right of centre at all?

Surely that's an extreme interpretation? Saying "I want the best for my family" is not the same as saying "I want the best for my family and don't care about the rest of the world".

You're right that "right of centre" people do tend to prioritise the welfare of their won family above that of strangers. But sure;y that's true of "left of centre" people as well.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Not far off 50/50 on the exchanges now.

Trump 1.97
Harris 2.06

2 weeks ago

Trump 1.6
Harris 3.05

 

[Albion my Albion]

You're right that "right of centre" people do tend to prioritise the welfare of their won family above that of strangers. But sure;y that's true of "left of centre" people as well.

You spelled sure;y wrong.

It's "shirley"

 

[US Seagull]

Oh he's not going to like this. And on his own platform too:

Also noticed that the poll here now has Harris ahead of Trump by 1 vote. The only poll that matters!

Also anybody who voted "Other Democratic candidate tbc", you can change your vote. It's now official.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/06/democrats-officially-nominate-harris-walz-00172966

 

[A1X]

You think of the Democratic Party as centrists, while I see them leaning far left (which they are).

Would you mind elaborating on their “far left” policies?

 

[Igzilla]

Oh he's not going to like this. And on his own platform too:

Also noticed that the poll here now has Harris ahead of Trump by 1 vote. The only poll that matters!

Also anybody who voted "Other Democratic candidate tbc", you can change your vote. It's now official.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/06/democrats-officially-nominate-harris-walz-00172966

The US depends upon the Electoral College, so the polls that matter are the swing states. Saying that, the pollsters tend to underestimate Democrat support by a few percent, so I've heard. Personally, I'm waiting for Allan Lichtman to make his call.

 

[US Seagull]

The US depends upon the Electoral College, so the polls that matter are the swing states. Saying that, the pollsters tend to underestimate Democrat support by a few percent, so I've heard. Personally, I'm waiting for Allan Lichtman to make his call.

WHAT?!? You mean the poll on a random thread for an English football team has no predictive value?!?