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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 173 41.9%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.5%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    413
  • This poll will close: .






BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,173
You've probably seen this

If not


Wow, these videos have to be 90% fake right?

Even if they are half true it is inconceivable that anyone would want this clown running the country.

Give your head a wobble USA.
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,220
On NSC for over two decades...
if 5 x the number are apprehended, then 5 x the number are entering and 5 x the number are getting through. Just look at the sorry state of our inner cities.
The number of apprehensions doesn't necessarily have a one to one relationship with the numbers entering though, and if it did there wouldn't be any point in spending more money on enforcement as it would just encourage more people to enter.
 


Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,866
Almería
Its not a conspiracy theory its a spurious maybe paranoid claim. I read about it.

Taylor swift is a black Psyop to convince voters to vote Democrat as she supported them last time. I thought F me thats stretching it, then there was a slither on the right running with it then many on the left giving it haha righties Triggered by TS. To me its like WTF why am I seeing this drivel.

Don't bother replying to this as its ALL daft beyond reason.

So the deep state hasn't engineered the Kansas City Chiefs' path to Superbowl victory? Now I don't know what to believe.
 






A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,480
Deepest, darkest Sussex
if 5 x the number are apprehended, then 5 x the number are entering and 5 x the number are getting through. Just look at the sorry state of our inner cities.
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
55,869
Faversham
if 5 x the number are apprehended, then 5 x the number are entering and 5 x the number are getting through. Just look at the sorry state of our inner cities.
Only if nothing has changed. But something has changed. Trump has gone and Biden is president. Have you not given the possibility that because borderland security have started to get their finger out and stop dicking about with The Wall now Trump has gone this is the reason they are catching more illegal entrants the tiniest bit of thought?

If the UK police change their process and leadership, and increase the number of burglars they apprehend five fold, does this mean that there are five times more burglaries (resulting from the change of leadership)?

When we brought in speed cams and caught loads more people speeding was this due to a massive increase in the number of people speeding after the introduction of speed cameras?

Would you argue that the thousand fold increase in illegal channel crossings in the last several years is because people smugglers think that under the Tories, Britain has become a soft touch for illegal immigrants? That the Tories are welcoming illegal immigrants with the promise of free accommodation? Even I, who loath the Tories, don't think this. The numbers have gone up because after Brexit we stopped co-operating with the French and the French now don't bother much over boats leaving their shores. The way the borders are managed has changed. There is a clue for you in there somewhere.

As for the sorry state of 'our' inner cities (I presume you mean American), I remember visiting East Orange 30 years ago and was appalled how the inner city area of Newark were a desolate crumbling wasteland of poverty and neglect. Then I discovered this is simply part of the American process. We in the UK then started seeing similar white middle class flight from inner cities. And then it all went the other way, with Hoxton going from home of the Krays to home of the Fins. And so on. This has nothing to do with illegal immigrants.

And yet.....I presume you are attempting to equate an up-step in urban decline (is there one?) with an up-step in the influx of illegal immigrants under Biden (is there an up-step? You have shown no data. What I have seen is a decline). You then somehow link this to the sad passing of the previous Top Work of Trump. Sorry mate, but that narrative is krunk. If you want to believe six impossible things before breakfast, then at least try to make them inspirational. ??? You'd feel a lot more cheerful.

When you have embraced a single theory to explain everything (Biden bad, badder than the baddest bad), and that's all you believe, then you've created your own religion. Perhaps we need to pronounce you, now, Fully American :wink:
 


US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
4,618
Cleveland, OH
It amazes me how the "party of personal responsibility" are so utterly unable to take responsibility for anything. Or how the best president of all time is such a total sucker.


They exploited his one weakness. Pretty women. It overrode his keen legal mind.

How can he "fight the deep state" when the "deep state" keeps playing him like a fiddle?
 






Cordwainer

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2023
529
It amazes me how the "party of personal responsibility" are so utterly unable to take responsibility for anything. Or how the best president of all time is such a total sucker.


They exploited his one weakness. Pretty women. It overrode his keen legal mind.

How can he "fight the deep state" when the "deep state" keeps playing him like a fiddle?
Must be incredibly liberating getting to your mid seventies knowing that you’ve never ever been at fault for or wrong about anything! Whadda guy.
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
It's frightening that the Dems are going with Biden.
Facing off against a repugnant, unAmerican, self serving, immortal huckster and behind in the polls is staggering.

 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,813
It's frightening that the Dems are going with Biden.
Facing off against a repugnant, unAmerican, self serving, immortal huckster and behind in the polls is staggering.


It’s 10 months away from the election so I don’t put too much weight on polls yet (that can have as much as 6% margin of error) and influencing factors on how people respond can change.

Neither Trump nor Biden are popular among the American electorate (for different reasons) so turnout could be a big issue. Biden is clearly losing the battle on frailty and mental fitness as well as for his support for Israel.



Yep, Biden not stepping aside for a younger candidate could be electoral suicide for the Dems and although generally very rare that a sitting President is challenged by his own party in running for a second term, I’m astounded that he has not been advised against running again given he now has the second lowest approval rating of any President in US History:


The Dems find themselves in the unenviable position similar to a football club whose manager needs to go but keep him on for lack of an alternative.
 


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