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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 172 41.7%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.7%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.9%

  • Total voters
    412
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Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I'm no fan of Trump, but unfortunately he seems a better bet than Biden.

On reflection, if Trump HAD won last time around at least the world would be rid of him in a year's time whatever chaos he had created.
So, by that logic, Biden must've been better than Trump four years ago, then? What's changed?
 






Zeberdi

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Zeberdi

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I think he may have been taking the michael.
It’s hard to tell - there’s so many people talking guff on these political threads who’s to know- Biden has already been called ‘far left’ and a ‘socialist’, ‘Trump a ‘fascist’ - it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if some far right knobs thought Biden was a ‘communist’ 🙄 it is a football forum after all ( so I’ve been told several times recently after trying to posting serious points of discussion on another thread)
 




Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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It’s hard to tell - there’s so many people talking guff on these political threads who’s to know- Biden has already been called ‘far left’ and a ‘socialist’, ‘Trump a ‘fascist’ - it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if some far right knobs thought Biden was a ‘communis’ 🙄
It's really not that hard to tell.
I'd also suggest that if you've filed clapham_gull under "far right knob" you might need to do some reorganisation.
 


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drew

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Oct 3, 2006
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It’s hard to tell - there’s so many people talking guff on these political threads who’s to know- Biden has already been called ‘far left’ and a ‘socialist’, ‘Trump a ‘fascist’ - it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if some far right knobs thought Biden was a ‘communist’ 🙄 it is a football forum after all ( so I’ve been told several times recently after trying to posting serious points of discussion on another thread)
Agree, not always easy to see the nuance in a post! If you read everything that Trump is posting you'd think he was taking the piss and then it turns out he genuinely believes what he says!!
 
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BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,108
What is Biden exactly? Interesting question.

Certainly not someone who is mentally or physically fit to be president.
Given that his main competitor also isn't fit to be president, doesn't it cast doubt over the electoral system in the US?

Surely not fit for purpose?
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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It’s hard to tell - there’s so many people talking guff on these political threads who’s to know- Biden has already been called ‘far left’ and a ‘socialist’, ‘Trump a ‘fascist’ - it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if some far right knobs thought Biden was a ‘communist’ 🙄 it is a football forum after all ( so I’ve been told several times recently after trying to posting serious points of discussion on another thread)
Referencing the "US HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM" Trump is about 80% there.

The commy thing towards Biden is a joke / ridiculing that who have had their brains boiled.

The thing with the US is unless Biden romps it (seems highly unlikely) they're already in failed democracy territory, infact the Republican party seems to have given up on it.

Its goes without saying, a failing US is a problem for democracy around the world and a win for Russia and China.
 

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Zeberdi

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Given that his main competitor also isn't fit to be president, doesn't it cast doubt over the electoral system in the US?

Surely not fit for purpose?
It is a sad indictment not just of the electoral system but of an electorate who for too long has voted for the cult of personality rather than the best man for the job.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
It is a sad indictment not just of the electoral system but of an electorate who for too long has voted for the cult of personality rather than the best man for the job.
When Trump said "I can walk down 5th Av" I'm not sure at that point it was true, for Trump it was a throw away remark.

But sadly now I think a lot really would, for a lot of people its transactional. They get something they want and are prepared to ignore everything else. This happened here to a lesser extent with Brexit, but in the end that wasn't enough
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Fascism also centralises the power of the state around an autocratic system of Government that tightly controls the lives of its citizens - the only autocrat in Hitler world was Hitler who very much looks out of control most of the time..
Significant part of your post amended for you.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,825
I understand (after taken advice) that I now technically "own" Zeberdi.

I'm not sure what that means, but since all property is theft I'm quite happy to hand him back to NSC.

I have nothing to loose but my chains.
 


GT49er

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Given that his main competitor also isn't fit to be president, doesn't it cast doubt over the electoral system in the US?

Surely not fit for purpose?
Plus the stupid fact, overlooked by Trump when calling Biden too old, is that if Trump wins the next election (God help us all!) he will be older at the start of his term than Biden was at the start of his! Trump can do hypocrisy so damn well he doesn't even realise he's doing it. Probably doesn't even realise he's lying most of the time either.

Come on NRA - get your act together - there's a job that needs doing!
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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I didn’t call anyone a right knob - I said it wouldn’t surprise me if some far right knobs thought Biden was a Communist.

There’s so much trolling and pile ons these days - it’s hard to know what anyone actually thinks and all you can do at times is to take posts at their face value in the absence of any clues to the contrary or prior knowledge of a poster.
No, you suggested someone (or more than one someone) was/were stupid enough to think a certain poster was a right knob. I doubt anyone thought he was that sort of knob at all. But carry on .......................
 


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