LamieRobertson
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Bounced off Twitter …but it’s ok ..found a home on the Evening Argus comments section
Ah, the good old "they're all as bad as each other" fallacy.
Agreed but De Santis may well yet self-sabotage on his own pulpit of self-righteous ‘God has sent me’ bullshit.The Reds have already dumped him for the Christian Crusader Ron De Santis. That is the battle he has to win first.
But Hunter Biden owns a laptop, so...y'know, swings and roundaboutsIt's simply incredible that Trump's attempt to try to steal the vote in Georgia still goes unpunished.. " I need you to find another 10,000 votes for me.....just say that you miscalculated " ...vote rigging, election fraud or what ?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-executive-summary?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Obviously not something that Tyrone B will be able to accept but, still a usefull timeline of the attempted corruption and insurrection on Jan 6.
Indeed, the Hunter Biden laptop takes everything to a whole new level. You can almost understand Trumps desperation to link aid for Ukraine to be linked to the most searching of investigations of HB.But Hunter Biden owns a laptop, so...y'know, swings and roundabouts
That laptop (if it even exists) would have been through the hands of so many people and have so many digital footprints on it that it would be totally inadmissible as evidence anyway. It makes me laugh that they keep banging on about it.Indeed, the Hunter Biden laptop takes everything to a whole new level. You can almost understand Trumps desperation to link aid for Ukraine to be linked to the most searching of investigations of HB.
You do realise that “God has sent me” bullshite, goes down rather well the other side of the pond….Agreed but De Santis may well yet self-sabotage on his own pulpit of self-righteous ‘God has sent me’ bullshit.
Indeed, the Hunter Biden laptop takes everything to a whole new level. You can almost understand Trumps desperation to link aid for Ukraine to be linked to the most searching of investigations of HB.
That laptop (if it even exists) would have been through the hands of so many people and have so many digital footprints on it that it would be totally inadmissible as evidence anyway. It makes me laugh that they keep banging on about it.
Yes - there’s something in that - however, he may be popular with Florida‘s Republican red neck voters because he’s served as an effective Governor there since 2019 but in the wider Republican Party at large and the GOP, he runs the risk of coming across as ‘odd’ and has even been accused of being blasphemous.You do realise that “God has sent me” bullshite, goes down rather well the other side of the pond….
Not a Republican friend, I'm a LibertarianFirstly, there is no evidence to connect Hunter Biden’s activities to Joe Biden
Secondly, Trump threatened to withdraw/delay arms sales to a Country that was about to be invaded by Russia (my tin foil hat might tell me Trump would have been aware of Putins plans to further advance into Ukraine since the 2014 illegal annexation of the Crimea given his frequent visits and his Son’s meetings with Kremlin Lawyers and sanction Russian banks in the lead up to the 2016 election - the difference, DT Junior was working for the Trump team directly.
Threatening to withdraw essential arms supplies to a Country that desperately needed them in exchange for dirt on an opponent in a domestic election is an insidious form of blackmail - Trump also ran the US Ambassador to Ukraine out of her job after he launched months of smear campaigning against her. Why, because she pi**ed off the shady Ukranian mafia types that Guilliani and Trump were in bed with (probably literally in Trump’s case!)
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Yes - there’s something in that - however, he may be popular with Florida‘s Republican red neck voters because he’s served as an effective Governor there since 2019 but in the wider Republican Party at large and the GOP, he runs the risk of coming across as ‘odd’ and has even been accused of being blasphemous.
posted before up thread:
His fundamental ’Christian’ position on same sex relationships and absolutist pro-life views won’t endear him either to the more moderate Republicans who will want a Candidate capable of winning swing States imo.
There’s no doubt that he is more in favour than Trump and his base will continue to erode Trump’s, I agree - the issue is whether the GOP think a far right candidate has a chance of beating a (non-Biden!) Democrat in 2024. I agree with your astute observation that De Santis could gain popularity the among the Hispanic communities. However, there exists a whole spectrum of varying Catholic adhesion to doctrine, ranging from Evangelical Catholicism and Conservatism to what might be described as more of a ‘cultural affiliation’ rather than a conviction based adherence to the tenets of the Catholic faith. There is a big difference between Biden’s ‘Catholicism ’ that embraces Roe v Wade and LGBTQ for example
I know this is not what you are saying but I don’t think we could assume ‘Catholic America’ is an homogeny of believers with any one Candidate appealing across the board to all of America’s 58 million Catholics just because he is a Catholic.
I still believe the majority of Americans want to see a President that does not discriminate against significant proportions of the population on the grounds of race, sex, gender and colour and whom recognises the autonomy that women should have over their bodies just to name a few issues. I also imagine the non-Floridans won’t have been ‘bought off’ by the large amounts of funding DeSantis has dished out to people living at the frontline of climate change, such as flood defences etc. However, unlike the Democrats, DeSantis has done nothing to address the causes of CC instead dismissing it as “left wing stuff’ and it reeks of a climate denial mentality. In a State thats in the firing line for the first brunt of CC impacts, that a little concerning.
For Latino registered voters, the economy is the top issue affecting their vote ahead of this fall’s midterm election, followed by health care, education, violent crime and gun policy.
Its all they have to try to hang on to.That laptop (if it even exists) would have been through the hands of so many people and have so many digital footprints on it that it would be totally inadmissible as evidence anyway. It makes me laugh that they keep banging on about it.
Yeah, that's before the vote. He was trying to change the outcome after the vote!Politicians lie all the time to try and influence outcomes.
I don't believe that is debunked, not that it matters in the context of what we're discussing. Trump wouldn't have been removed without evidence.Look at the absolute lies the Democrats pushed with the now soundly debunked Russia-gate nonsense.
So you can't understand that a state governor could lie about their election results?No my argument is that it's laughable that people think the US was going to be overthrown. Like it's hilarious.
We get lies from our parties too, but there is a world of differences between the sort of exaggerated claims we see in order to swing a vote, and actually trying to overturn the vote.He very well might be prosecuted but the fact that so much corruption and lies by other politicians just get swept under the rug means it's all one massive fraudulent system that picks and chooses which corruption it will accept.
Exactly. Trying to pass that off as 'well the Democrats lie too' is baffling.It's simply incredible that Trump's attempt to try to steal the vote in Georgia still goes unpunished.. " I need you to find another 10,000 votes for me.....just say that you miscalculated " ...vote rigging, election fraud or what ?