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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 169 41.4%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 53.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 19 4.7%

  • Total voters
    408
  • This poll will close: .


Bodian

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US Seagull

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They platformed it.:ffsparr:
This is Ed Tew? The same Ed Tew who is a comedy writer for Have I Got News For You?


It explains a lot of your view points when you can't recognize satire.

Please don't ever visit theonion.com
 


Zeberdi

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What is a fascist?

Subvert information, willfully censor information from public, glorify and protect leader, prosecute and subjugate domestic dissenters, generally pro-war, lie to protect the brand, believe in central control, subvert or dismantle democratic processes to stay in power.

How many boxes does the current administration check?
That’s a pretty good description of Trump tbh.
  • Pro-war with Iran - Antagonising Iran, tearing up Nuclear Deal, assassinating top general on Iranian soil, supporting Netanyahu to the point of awarding him occupied territory in a ’peace deal’
  • Fake, fake narratives - ignoring glaring evidence to the contrary even on easily proven truths like crowd size and military hardware
  • Resisting a peaceful transfer of power, interfering with the electoral process, calling Jan 6 a day of “love”
  • An inordinate pre-occupation for personal self-preservation and demanding supporters pay legal fees from campaign funds to keep him out of jail - a central theme in every policy position/speech he makes
  • Censoring public information and removing science-based information on environmental issues, such as water pollution, climate change, and endangered species from agency websites.
  • Threatening to turn the military on American citizens to silent his political opponents
  • Promising to use the National Guard in a mass deportation programme
  • Adopting the policies of a radical centralisation programme under Project 2025
  • Stacking the SCOTUS with hard right justices who divided on partisan lines, declare Presidents absolutely immune from criminal prosecution when carrying out executive and presidential duties.

Although I’ve not labelled Trump a fascist either - I think these ‘ideologically absolute’ labels are unhelpful and lazy.
 


BadFish

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i would just like to mention that when I posted about abuse of laughter emojis it was as an example of poor behaviour not that I was bothered by it I am not.

It does provide a handy bookmark from my last post and I see over half the ones are by people I have blocked, they dont show up in notifications.

I got the right people, carry on.
Fair play to you, you 'got' lots of people, and continue to do so.

Your dopey send up and lampooning if Trump supporters has been excellent. Well done, it's funny, we laughed.

😂
 


Zeberdi

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Nobody fought for anything, white men invented all the good stuff and then it was incrementally distributed it. even sending the 101st airborne in to end segregation. Its called first mover advantage, you invent it so get to use it first.
Lovely - very kind of them I’m sure 😉

- do we have an Albert Schweitzer in our midst who knew how to ‘cultivate’ the ‘black people’, hand out the white man’s ‘gifts’ and teach them the ‘Christian ways’ to ’rescue them from their pagan idolatry’ ?

Or maybe, we have a C21st Thomas Hobbs who lauded absolute monarchy and justified central government as necessary because ‘man’ in his ‘uncivilised natural form’ was wild and untamed?

Or perhaps it is just this 🤷‍♂️

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Perhaps :wink:
 
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BadFish

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No they aren't. That is a lazy cliche. They are not both deeply flawed.

Only one of them insults, demeans, throws tantrums and tried to overthrow the US government. One lives in reality, the other lives in a deranged fantasy world. One is fit for office, the other has lost what little mental faculties he originally had and is reduced to vaguely swaying while his people play music for half an hour.

Don't be saying they are both deeply flawed. You can certainly argue that Kamala Harris isn't perfect, nobody is, but the other candidate is a vile wannabe dictator who is totally unhinged. He showed us what kind of president he'd be and it killed millions of Americans and crashed the economy.

Don't both sides this. The sides are definitely not equal. They are not the same.
I stopped reading after this claim. It totally misrepresents the situation.

Like comparing a bowl of spaghetti bolognaise with a bowl of shit, one might not be to your liking and limited in a number of ways. However the other is a bowl of shit.
 


US Seagull

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I stopped reading after this claim. It totally misrepresents the situation.

Like comparing a bowl of spaghetti bolognaise with a bowl of shit, one might not be to your liking and limited in a number of ways. However the other is a bowl of shit.
Apologies if I already posted this, can't remember if I did. But it seems relevant:

 






Triggaaar

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So very predictable and as I wrote above. A general unwillingness to listen to another POV. Its why we are where we are. Adios.

You said the both candidates are deeply flawed and he said why he disagrees with that. How was he unwilling to listen to your point of view?
 




Zeberdi

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I stopped reading after this claim. It totally misrepresents the situation.

Like comparing a bowl of spaghetti bolognaise with a bowl of shit, one might not be to your liking and limited in a number of ways. However the other is a bowl of shit.
Interesting he didn’t even respond to my post @ #6705 which specifically addressed the points he made about ‘fascism’. Seems to have conveniently slipped under the radar.
 




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Interesting he didn’t even respond to my post @ #6705 which specifically addressed the points he made about ‘fascism’. Seems to have conveniently slipped under the radar.
He hasn’t responded to one of my posts. Ever.

I should probably count my blessings.

Probably because I ask single point, polite questions that require simple answers.
 


Zeberdi

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He hasn’t responded to one of my posts. Ever.

I should probably count my blessings.

Probably because I ask single point, polite questions that require simple answers.
I was referring to @Marlton and Hove Albion - he has hardly posted on this thread.

(I wrote a comprehensive reply to his accusation directed towards me that Harris is a ‘fascist’).

And - No - it is because he has barely appeared on the thread so probably doesn’t see your ‘single point, polite questions’ 😂
 


The Clamp

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I was referring to @Marlton and Hove Albion - he has hardly posted on this thread.

(I wrote a comprehensive reply to his accusation directed towards me that Harris is a ‘fascist’).

And - No - it is because he has barely appeared on the thread so probably doesn’t see your ‘single point, polite questions’ 😂
Apologies. I get ever so confused.

I’m just gonna stand over here and sway to some music.
 




Zeberdi

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BadFish

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Interesting he didn’t even respond to my post @ #6705 which specifically addressed the points he made about ‘fascism’. Seems to have conveniently slipped under the radar.
After being critical of the posterson a thread he hasn't read not listening to other people's pov.

I guess his pov is the most important one.
 










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