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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 171 41.6%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.8%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.9%

  • Total voters
    411
  • This poll will close: .


A1X

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Crawley Dingo

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Mar 31, 2022
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Do you regard any form of criticism of Trump as “deranged”?
Sort of, according to detractors he's guilty of every crime, personality flaw, character flaw and immoral act known to man. It would take someone like Dr Manhattan to take him down. As well as all the mutually exclusive allegations like he is stupid and an evil genius or Zion don who moved the embassy to Jerusalem and produced the Abraham accords as well as being antisemitic.

Added to this is most the allegations are far fetched. A self declared civic nationalist is secretly working for the Russians or a bung of hush money to a whore is election interference but trying to jail the main challenger isn't?

There is a point where wiser folk stop listening and start laughing.

Do you know what overplaying your hand means?
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Why are you assuming the recent pictures are not either doctored or pre-shooting pictures?
Good point.

But I'm not sure why Trump and his team would be carefully doctoring recent videos and photos of him? For what purpose would they be doing that?

And videos are quite tricky to doctor, as you would have to do every single frame. Seems a bit odd for him to do this?

The Wisconsin rally was post-shooting - see the bullet proof screens and so on. https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-wisconsin-election-economy-a6923d6c5758dabb6d959417ea9d7d12#
 


Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
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Good point.

But I'm not sure why Trump and his team would be carefully doctoring recent videos and photos of him? For what purpose would they be doing that?

And videos are quite tricky to doctor, as you would have to do every single frame. Seems a bit odd for him to do this?

The Wisconsin rally was post-shooting - see the bullet proof screens and so on. https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-wisconsin-election-economy-a6923d6c5758dabb6d959417ea9d7d12#
????

I'm not accusing the Trump team of doctoring them but the conspiracists.
 






Molango's visa

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Sep 7, 2007
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I am yet to see anyone admit they are wrong on this thread, please link me where I missed it. . I have qualified my remark twice and that's it. I am not going to be played by you or anyone else and that includes being held to different standards.

As I have said my view is this thread is full of leftist scum, there is no way I'm showing fealty as that boat has gone. if you think I'm wrong then suck it up. After all you failed to show me how trump was racist and I let it slide.
Leftist scum? My, you are quite a piece of work.
 








A1X

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Do you know what overplaying your hand means?
Of course I do.

Are you prepared to criticise Trump? For anything? And I don’t mean a “he should have locked Hilary up” type criticism, a genuine criticism of him and his methods.

There must be a flaw in him that you’re uncomfortable about.
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria
????

I'm not accusing the Trump team of doctoring them but the conspiracists.
Oh, right. So - how would the conspiracists have conspired to doctor the video I posted a link to?

And how about this one. This one is from Fox News. I thought Fox News were Trump supporters - or are they now conspiracists and doctoring their own videos?


And here?

The whole thing is a bit weird, however you look at it .
 






Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,429
Vilamoura, Portugal
I'd suggest it's extremely unlikely.




A camera could be doing 20 shots a second, but you wouldn't want that when taking photos of a speech (no one needs to look through that many photos). So there's little chance the bullet would be in frame when a photo was taken. And your shutter speed could be 1/500 of a second (little point in being faster than that). A bullet would travel at about 3,300 feet per second, so in 1/500th of a second it would travel about 6.6 feet (3,300/500). So in the photo, the bullet should look about 6.6 feet long. With the bullet probably being about 2cm long, that means it's stretched about 100 times it's length, which means it would be practically invisible. Does that match what you've seen?
If you look at the 2 articles I've posted, one by the photographer, you will see the photo and the explanation.
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,429
Vilamoura, Portugal
No, you’re peddling conspiracy theories which require a gunman to have brutally sacrificed his life and agreed to murder an innocent civilian, and a large web of collusion throughout law enforcement and medical professionals. Records released or not, doctors will have treated him.

This is the exact sort of distasteful nonsense I presume you’d be the first to criticise Trump supporters for posting. Anyone can say they ‘don’t know’ when presented with the obvious facts regarding what would have to had happened for this to be staged - murder, suicide and widespread collusion.

Whether he has tried to capitalise on the assassination attempt by exaggerating the injury to rally support is another matter entirely, and probably quite likely.
I'm not reading conspiracy theories. I am looking at photos of the damaged ear and the subsequent completely healed ear. If the medical report was released I would read that also.
 






Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,429
Vilamoura, Portugal
No, you’re peddling conspiracy theories which require a gunman to have brutally sacrificed his life and agreed to murder an innocent civilian, and a large web of collusion throughout law enforcement and medical professionals. Records released or not, doctors will have treated him.

This is the exact sort of distasteful nonsense I presume you’d be the first to criticise Trump supporters for posting. Anyone can say they ‘don’t know’ when presented with the obvious facts regarding what would have to had happened for this to be staged - murder, suicide and widespread collusion.

Whether he has tried to capitalise on the assassination attempt by exaggerating the injury to rally support is another matter entirely, and probably quite likely.
His ear has miraculously healed and regrown a missing piece.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,097
In terms of Trump’s ear, surely his intact ear could be explained by plastic surgery?
 










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