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A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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sometimes i feel sorry for americans, it must be difficult to tell when its parody or not.
I think it’s you who is nowhere near reality. Net migration over the last 3 years is a falsehood.
She’s only an ignoramus because she frightens you. Female, black, Indian and intelligent. Whereas you want a sex offender and someone that likes to hangout with perverts and underaged girls. Your moral compass is well and truly f***ed!But it’s not a Biden/Harris ticket is it. It’s a Harris and who the f*ck knows ticket. I care because a Harris is an ignoramus who dropped out of the race in 2020 before the primaries because she was so unpopular. God forbid she might even win, a disaster for the USA and the world.
Yes but the rules differ for each party and obligation does come into it although less for Democrats than Republicans.as someone outside of US i am aware that party nominees are determined by their convention. the primaries are a pageant for the party to see who's available and who the membership would prefer. there is no obligation for them to have any form of vote, only their own party rules guide how they select a nominee. i find it odd that someone in the US doesn't understand this, and would claim it's undemocratic that a private organisation has altered their choice of who to support. it's the Democrat's nomination, it's their membership's issue who or how they agree to it. presumably you're not going to vote for them anyway, so why the fudge do you care how they nominate them?
Just the end of the USA as we know it.
Incredible...he needs therapy .sometimes i feel sorry for americans, it must be difficult to tell when its parody or not.
But it’s not a Biden/Harris ticket is it. It’s a Harris and who the f*ck knows ticket. I care because a Harris is an ignoramus who dropped out of the race in 2020 before the primaries because she was so unpopular. God forbid she might even win, a disaster for the USA and the world.
Thank you for your comments, very interesting. I guess it's easy for me as a white male to define them from the outside. To me they're just my niece and nephew and I love them as family- too simple a viewpoint really. I don't envy them because of the extra pressures they face, as you mention. They're mid-teens so they're still in the process of finding their identity and only they themselves can define that, same as sexual identity - not up to me to define it for them. I do need to put more thought into it though and some further reading. google tells me Obama On Our Minds has an interesting chapter called The (Mixed) Race To The White House.. but cant find it for less than £50 annoyingly.A lot of people of mixed heritage ie black/white, identify themselves as black. "Black" has more a sense of identity than "mixed race" and therefore more a sense of belonging as you have "black" culture which is more definable than "mixed race" culture which is harder to define.
The only other alternative is for them to identify themselves as "white", which you could argue would be just as valid as them identifying themselves as black, but I suppose their skin tone or other features which denote the black part of their heritage prevents them from doing so due to society's various pressures, and pressures from all sides.
A mixed race person identifying as black is generally accepted as the norm whereas a mixed race person (with mixed race features) identifying as white would open themselves up to criticism and accusations of being ashamed of or in denial of their black heritage because of the perceptions of racism and discrimination. It could also be perceived as a betrayal or rejection or denial of their black heritage in the context of "black pride".
So because of all those pressures and also to have more of a sense of "belonging" it's easier for a mixed race person to identify as black even if by definition they define themselves as "mixed race". There is a subtle difference between "identity" and "definition".
Trump, who isn't senile according to some, didn't know Harris was black:
This is the same tactic they like to roll out against black candidates. Trying to deny they are "black". They tried it with Obama too, due to his white mother.
Just like last time…If she is *that* unpopular and that much is an 'ignoramus', then clearly she won't win, then?
Unlike Trump who people seem to think is the solution to ALL their problems and will, in four years, turn the US into the greatest nation the world had EVER seen...
Agreed - it's too early to say it's done and dusted - but his campaign at present looks much more unstable and volatile than hers.The Kamala campaign has organic and genuine energy and excitement about it - she's a phenomenon and might have timed her run perfectly.
The risk at this stage is that things are going almost TOO well, there will be a September/October surprise at some point. And they need to get the VP selection right - but considering who is on the list, I don't think there are any choices as bad/damaging as JD Vance!
Point of order. Indian. From India. On her mother's side.She’s only an ignoramus because she frightens you. Female, black, hispanic and intelligent. Whereas you want a sex offender and someone that likes to hangout with perverts and underaged girls. Your moral compass is well and truly f***ed!
Very well said.It's a bit surprising really. Right back through history, to those who believed that "black" and "white" is important and we need to know which is which, "white" has been defined as pure blood white, and a hint of black ancestry made the person "black". They had different words for it - quadroon, octaroon in the days of slavery; mixed race in South Africa; non-Aryan in Germany. But the point was that of (essentially) white is better, and if you aren't fully white, you are (as was then seen as inferior by the white powers-that-be) black.
Nowadays, when surely we ought to be getting to the point where it doesn't matter, it's still the case than an element of society thinks that white must still be pure bred and anything other than pure white, is black. It's unpleasant IMO. People are just people, and who their ancestors are is scarcely relevant.
(It's one of the premises of that programme "Who do you think you are" that bugs me. We all know who we are. We are, essentially, the creature known as "Me". If I discover I was switched at birth or adopted or had an ancestor who was a slave dealer or who was black, it doesn't stop the essential truth. I am Me.)
Pete is incredibly impressive at dismantling republican talking points, but can we be sure America is ready for black woman + gay man on the same ticket? I wouldn't be surprised if he got a substantial role in the next democrat administration, maybe even secretary of state, and he will surely run again in future.Agreed - it's too early to say it's done and dusted - but his campaign at present looks much more unstable and volatile than hers.
Pete Buttigieg speaks really, really well. I don't know enough about the alternatives but black woman with white man feels like it fits well in terms of Democrats wanting to be "the Big party" of the nation.
It goes back to the days of Empire. Much of Africa has a great oral tradition (think of Roots where Alex Haley traced his family back to Africa by repeating the same phrases through the generations) instead of a written language. Explorers labelled many as savages with 'no education' which then became tittle tattle about blacks having less brain power than whites.It's a bit surprising really. Right back through history, to those who believed that "black" and "white" is important and we need to know which is which, "white" has been defined as pure blood white, and a hint of black ancestry made the person "black". They had different words for it - quadroon, octaroon in the days of slavery; mixed race in South Africa; non-Aryan in Germany. But the point was that of (essentially) white is better, and if you aren't fully white, you are (as was then seen as inferior by the white powers-that-be) black.
Nowadays, when surely we ought to be getting to the point where it doesn't matter, it's still the case than an element of society thinks that white must still be pure bred and anything other than pure white, is black. It's unpleasant IMO. People are just people, and who their ancestors are is scarcely relevant.
(It's one of the premises of that programme "Who do you think you are" that bugs me. We all know who we are. We are, essentially, the creature known as "Me". If I discover I was switched at birth or adopted or had an ancestor who was a slave dealer or who was black, it doesn't stop the essential truth. I am Me.)
Totally get your point but it is a bit silly isn't it - if he was straight I'm certain he'd be the VP.Pete is incredibly impressive at dismantling republican talking points, but can we be sure America is ready for black woman + gay man on the same ticket? I wouldn't be surprised if he got a substantial role in the next democrat administration, maybe even secretary of state, and he will surely run again in future.