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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 173 41.9%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.5%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    413
  • This poll will close: .


Triggaaar

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I know of several people who think Johnson was hard done by and there are factions of the Tory party, even now, who want to ditch Sunak before the electio, to get Boris back. My sister in law, for one.
But I think those people are in the minority, which is why he won't be winning the next election. We can't be so sure about Trump, who is far far worse.
 




Bodian

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Triggaaar

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Not half as worried as last time around I was expecting disaster but he just sat on his arse for 4 years which was a lot nicer than say George Bush.

What he could do for Putin is a worry
 


Exilegull

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What he could do for Putin is a worry
Of course a worry but was a worry last time not much happened understand people are worried but he is a talker not a doer. Some of his talk like exiting Nato could never happen there are limits to what presidents can and cant do before more persistent power structures obstruct the maddest ideas. Dont have much faith in America but enough to think they wouldnt let this orange bum cause too much damage
 


chickens

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That‘s a lot of money coming into the coffers without providing any services…other than government access.
There’s plenty of proof, you’re just not interested in hearing it.

Do you not grow weary of swinging and missing? I haven’t heard you say one positive thing about Trump, your focus has been entirely on trying to discredit Biden.

And as @tedebear pointed out above, everything you’ve got melts under closer examination. Quite apart from anything else, Hunter Biden isn’t Joe Biden, and doesn’t hold a position within government. Unlike Trump, Biden hasn’t filled senior posts with most of his immediate family. Another point where Trump suffers when compared to Biden.

Trump is an aggressive bully, he’s the kid at school who wherever he places in any test or challenge will boastfully tell everyone they won really, and then list why those placed above him don’t really count. It’s never his fault. He’s the BESTEST and the WINNINGEST ever. Reality must bend to fit his narrative.

Don’t vote that in as president. You’ve already tried it once, nothing improved.
 




tedebear

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Trump is a property developer for heavens sake. A wanna be dictator, just in it for himself. He is simply using people to further his own aims. He tells the disenfranchised what they want to hear. He tells them he'll stick it to the man. He makes up lies and says them so often people believe them as truth. He divides people, keeps them scared of the lies he creates, then tells the people he'll protect them from those lies. Who invented "fake news", why the very man who pedals it the most... Trump the property developer who is deluded and taking those who are sick of politics for a ride...He is in it for no one but himself...
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Trump is a property developer for heavens sake. A wanna be dictator, just in it for himself. He is simply using people to further his own aims. He tells the disenfranchised what they want to hear. He tells them he'll stick it to the man. He makes up lies and says them so often people believe them as truth. He divides people, keeps them scared of the lies he creates, then tells the people he'll protect them from those lies. Who invented "fake news", why the very man who pedals it the most... Trump the property developer who is deluded and taking those who are sick of politics for a ride...He is in it for no one but himself...
It will be interesting to watch how he handles himself in court next Monday, if he turns up.
 








Bodian

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Now worth less than the day before going public.



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Zeberdi

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As President Trump, would you ban abortion? See the clip from 1999.
Not defending him but he did say that the Arizona total ban ‘goes too far’ - an impressive conciliatory position indeed for a misogynistic, serial sex offender (according to scores of women) - an emotional retard who thinks women’s bodies have no value at all other than to be objectified and serve his predatory behaviour.

 


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Not defending him but he did say that the Arizona total ban ‘goes too far’ - an impressive conciliatory position indeed for a misogynistic, serial sex offender (according to scores of women) - an emotional retard who thinks women’s bodies have no value at all other than to be objectified and serve his predatory behaviour.

You aren't suggesting....that he'll say anything to anyone . . . . to maximise leverage and traction . . . regardless of the content or how it was all different when he addressed another lot of people earlier? And so on? Shirley Knott? ???
 


Zeberdi

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You aren't suggesting....that he'll say anything to anyone . . . . to maximise leverage and traction . . . regardless of the content or how it was all different when addressed another lot of people earlier? And so on? Shirley Knott? ???
I wasn’t suggesting anything other than literally what I posted - a link to the BBC story posted this morning that Trump says the Arizona ban ‘goes too far’. He’s still a fcukwit with no conviction politics or ideology other than the pursuit of power for power’s sake, of course he’ll say whatever suits him at the time and tailor it to his audiences as he did in 1999 - I think I’ve made it pretty clear on this thread how I feel about the man. 🤮


He’s not going to come out and support a total ban on abortion and hand the Election over to the Democrats.

Edit - the ironic tone of my post probably should have dispelled any impression I thought Trump not supporting the Arizona ban was anything to applaud him for.😎
 
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I wasn’t suggesting anything other than literally what I posted - a link to the BBC story posted this morning that Trump says the Arizona ban ‘goes too far’. He’s still a fcukwit with no conviction politics or ideology other than the pursuit of power for power’s sake, of course he’ll say whatever suits him at the time and tailor it to his audiences as he did in 1999 - I think I’ve made it pretty clear on this thread how I feel about the man. 🤮


He’s not going to come out and support a total ban on abortion and hand the Election over to the Democrats.

Edit - the ironic tone of my post probably should have dispelled any impression I thought Trump not supporting the Arizona ban was anything to applaud him for.😎
When I said 'you're not suggesting', it wasn't an actual question. It was a comedic rhetorical way of touching base with the well-recognised concept that Trump will say anything to curry support and change what he says to suit his audience (in a 'lest we not forget' sort of way). I was inviting neither a 5 minute argument nor the full half hour :wink:
 


Zeberdi

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When I said 'you're not suggesting', it wasn't an actual question. It was a comedic rhetorical way of touching base with the well-recognised concept that Trump will say anything to curry support and change what he says to suit his audience (in a 'lest we not forget' sort of way). I was inviting neither a 5 minute argument nor the full half hour :wink:
Then you again you missed the tone of my post - I wasn’t trying to start ahalf hour argument just clarifying what I meant agreeing with you 🙄 Try not to talk in riddles 🙂
 


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Then you again you missed the tone of my post - I wasn’t trying to start ahalf hour argument just clarifying what I meant agreeing with you 🙄 Try not to talk in riddles 🙂
It's as if two ******** people are trying to have a conversation, while competing to prove who agrees with the other the most vehemently :wink:
 






Albion my Albion

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Trump goes to a fortune teller and asks what he’ll be doing in a year.

The teller says, “I see you riding down Pennsylvania Avenue in a fancy limousine.

People on both sides of the road are yelling and cheering and celebrating.”

Trump says, “Am I smiling”?

The teller answers, “I don’t know, the casket is closed.
 




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