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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 173 41.9%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.5%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    413
  • This poll will close: .


Zeberdi

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Triggaaar

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Biden took files to his home

I thought we were talking about Trump and Clinton? Trump wanted to lock Hilary up, yet you say the democrats want to lock up Trump. Replublicans that Trump himself has appointed, have found him guilty.



“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” He also asked for 10,000 national guards to protect the capitol If needed.

He also finished with: "We fight. We fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue." so his earlier, less impassioned comments would have been forgotten.


Hillary deleted thousands of emails and smashed up personal devices, phones, etc.

Is that a crime?


It‘s more like applying one rule for Trump and another rule for Hillary.
No, because what happened first is that Trump said he would lock her up. 5 years later Trump is being charged with crimes, so you have then determined that the Democrats are totalitarian. You are the one here applying different rules.
 


Bodian

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Biden took files to his home (and other locations) but no jury would convict him because he is too senile.

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It‘s more like applying one rule for Trump and another rule for Hillary.
Rather different though isn't it. Biden apologised and co-operated, and returned what he had taken seemingly in error. Nor was he president.

Trump has doubled down, denied he had what he had when he knew he had them, tried to secretely move them, lied, refused to co-operate and so on. That's why prosecutors have taken this action. If he had co-operated and returned what he had - there would be no trial.
 










Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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1. If you are leftwing I do not expect you to see Trump as benevolent.

2 Trump is not the most partisan, that was Abe Lincoln who spilt the country into war. Trump is not divisive, he is using a brand of nationalism to unite a nation. Its the race and gender grifters who are divisive as well as the MSM with its fake news. The word you are looking for is confrontational.

3. its the same revolution, life and liberty etc. Hopefully a peaceful one by vote(Like Brexit), but then if the DNC decide that open borders is a good way to add at least 14 congressional seats you will get a hot one. We are in uncharted territory here with potentially many black swan events.

You cant stop what is coming.
Another 4 years of Biden,
 




Deportivo Seagull

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I think it’s you who should be embarrassed if you think that Biden is mentally fit to be president. Democrats are abusing the rule of law to imprison their main political opponent because they know they will lose the election if they don’t. It’s as totalitarian as it gets.

Biden is fit to be president. His record says as much. He will win the next election.

Democrats aren‘t. Trump has multiple cases against him because he’s rolling in corruption, you reap what you sow.

you wouldn’t know totalitarianism if it brought you a drink just like your failure to understand what socialism actually is. TBH your Lack of understanding and knowledge is very depressing.

On the subject on mentally fit to govern. Exactly where do you stand on Trumps mental state. I ask as my father had dementia and Alzheimer’s and he could be trumps twin in behaviours, the only difference is that my dad didn’t wear a diaper!
 


Zeberdi

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Biden is fit to be president. His record says as much. He will win the next election...
Democrats aren‘t. Trump has multiple cases against him because he’s rolling in corruption, you reap what you sow.
Trump is a Republican - it is Biden that is the Democrat candidate, just to clear up any confusion for anyone reading this..Typo!

I wish I had your optimism about Biden but I hope you are right.
 
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Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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Trump is a Republican - it is Biden that is the Democrat candidate, just to clear up any confusion for anyone reading this..

I wish I had your optimism about Biden but I hope you are right.
It’ll be close but there are enough republicans who will not vote for Trump. TBH I’m not sure he’s going to make it. Mentally he seems to be going down hill very quickly …
 




Zeberdi

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It’ll be close but there are enough republicans who will not vote for Trump. TBH I’m not sure he’s going to make it. Mentally he seems to be going down hill very quickly …
The thing is, if Trump for any reason dropped out, could that actually be worse for Biden when a lot of voters are apparently supporting Biden to keep Trump out, including swing voters. Without Trump, would Biden lose to a younger, healthier Republican candidate? I’m half hoping Trump doesn’t drop out because I want the Dems back in despite Biden’s frailty 🤔
 


Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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The thing is, if Trump for any reason dropped out, could that actually be worse for Biden when a lot of voters are apparently supporting Biden to keep Trump out, including swing voters. Without Trump, would Biden lose to a younger, healthier Republican candidate? I’m half hoping Trump doesn’t drop out because I want the Dems back in despite Biden’s frailty 🤔
It’s bugger is it not. He just needs to melt down just before polling.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Manchester
The thing is, if Trump for any reason dropped out, could that actually be worse for Biden when a lot of voters are apparently supporting Biden to keep Trump out, including swing voters. Without Trump, would Biden lose to a younger, healthier Republican candidate? I’m half hoping Trump doesn’t drop out because I want the Dems back in despite Biden’s frailty 🤔
Anyone but Trump for me. World would still be a much safer place with a normal Republican in the White House.
 




A1X

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I don’t think it’s a coincidence that almost everyone who worked with Trump in his time as president has said “yeah this guy’s nuts, don’t vote for him”. But hey, maybe they’re all “deranged” too?
 


Zeberdi

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Maybe it is all an act as Trump’s claim for immunity from his criminal convictions falls on deaf ears - I’m waiting for his lawyers to claim a total defence on the grounds of insanity to keep him out of jail if he loses his court case :lolol:

Interesting discussion Trump’s possible mental health decline - also Biden’s cognitive health

 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Maybe it is all an act as Trump’s claim for immunity from his criminal convictions falls on deaf ears - I’m waiting for his lawyers to claim a total defence on the grounds of insanity to keep him out of jail if he loses his court case :lolol:

They could win the argument that his conviction is quashed due to insanity, and then he'd still run for president on the basis that insane people can be president, citing his first term in office as proof.
 




nicko31

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Gods country fortnightly


marlowe

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Jesus! The markets only opened 20 minutes ago and already down another 8%.....
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EDIT...
Make that 9% 🤣
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Edit Edit..
Make that 11% 🤣🤣😅🤣
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