That SCUMMER who commited suicide on the railway track

[Safeway]

What a WANKER, He should get done for mass murder.

Who's up for desicrating his grave?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

how if he is dead

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

The poor people who were killed are surely victims of pre-meditated murder if the reports of suicide are correct. Hard to think of a single more selfish act.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

 

[Easy 10]

I'll be interested to hear what else this off duty policeman did in the seconds before the crash. How long did he have ? He saw the car on the tracks, and he used the phone to alert the rail authorities. But would he have had time to do something more immediate, ie haul the bloke out of the car and get it off the tracks ?

I dunno. I'm not criticising, as no-one knows all the facts yet and I'm not sure what I would have done in that situation. The "hero" would have reacted immediately and done something to get the car clear of the crossing...easy to say, quite another thing to attempt, risking your own life in the process.

But if that WAS a suicide, that bloke should rot in hell.

 

[Beach Hut]

Not being very knowledgeable on suicide there appears to always be a very selfish theme to it.

Someone told me once I have no idea what it is like to be so desparate to want to kill yourself - thankfully I don't

 

[the full harris]

I've got to say if it was suicide, i do NOT have anger towards the guy who did it. If you are so desperate as to take your life in that way then you are obviously just really ill and I feel sorry for him.

Tragic all round.

If his grave does get desicrated then the people who do it are just not thinking. They would be destroying the grave (that his family will visit) of a man who was so ill he felt there was only one way out and as one last cry of help did it in this way (maybe hoping somone would get him and the car out of the way in time and get him some, obviously much needed, help).

He is someone's son, maybe someone's brother.
Talk about kicking them when they are down.

Don't get me wrong, the entire event is tragic and i know there were other people's family members who died on the train and I am sure people will come back on here and say 'what if your brother had been killed on the train, you'd hate the guy in the car then' but my point is what if your brother was the guy in the car. This man was NOT a fred west or ian huntley. He was probably just a desperate, ill man.


RIP i say.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

i understand what you are saying

 

[Yorkie]

The poor people who were killed are surely victims of pre-meditated murder if the reports of suicide are correct. Hard to think of a single more selfish act.

I agree. One of the victims was a 9 year old girl.

 

[Yoda]

Hmm?!..."Not only am I fed up with my own life, I'll end mine and take a few more with me for good measure."

If he wanted to get run over by a train, why didn't he just get out of his car and lie down on the tracks? At least that way he wouldn't have derailed it and taken others with him.

 

[Bwian]

For a person to even contemplate suicide means their life has bottomed out in a way that thankfully none of us on here can relate to. I used to go out with a girl who had massive family problems, she had an addiction to alcohol and a few other hang ups. At 18 I couldn't cope with her problems so finished with her-she decided to jump off of a roof a few days later. f***ing selfish act-f***ed up the mind of this person for a good while afterwards. Her suicide made the papers too which didn't help me at all.

None of what I babbled on about makes the driver of that car's act of selfishness any less evil but something really bad must have been going on in his head. Also, I bet he only wanted to get splattered by the train and the thought of de-railing it didn't enter his head and why should it? There are numerous train-car collisions every year but the last one to cause deaths of passengers on the train was in 1986 wasn't it?

 

[Yoda]

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[readingstockport]

Hmm?!..."Not only am I fed up with my own life, I'll end mine and take a few more with me for good measure."

If he wanted to get run over by a train, why didn't he just get out of his car and lie down on the tracks? At least that way he wouldn't have derailed it and taken others with him.

A couple of points.

1. Wanting to kill yourself is a bit of a pisser and if you have a car why not just suck exhaust fumes, by all accounts not too bad a way to die.

2. The fact the train derailed was apparently highly unusual. Normally in these situations the car is crushed and the train continues relatively safely before coming to rest. In this case immediately after hitting the car the train hit some points and diverted into a siding where the normal speed is 25 mph and this is why the train derailed.

Not excusing it and not justifying it but as a method of suicide it is highly unusual for this to take others with it.

My friends got out alive though I believe.

 

[Yorkie]

. Also, I bet he only wanted to get splattered by the train and the thought of de-railing it didn't enter his head and why should it? There are numerous train-car collisions every year but the last one to cause deaths of passengers on the train was in 1986 wasn't it?

Selby 2001

 

[Yoda]

A couple of points.

1. Wanting to kill yourself is a bit of a pisser and if you have a car why not just suck exhaust fumes, by all accounts not too bad a way to die.

2. The fact the train derailed was apparently highly unusual. Normally in these situations the car is crushed and the train continues relatively safely before coming to rest. In this case immediately after hitting the car the train hit some points and diverted into a siding where the normal speed is 25 mph and this is why the train derailed.

Not excusing it and not justifying it but as a method of suicide it is highly unusual for this to take others with it.

My friends got out alive though I believe.

Lucky for your freinds then.

On your second point, I remember a couple of years ago, a train as derailed on an unmaned crossing in Lancing. No points in the direction the train was going until Worthing station (a good 3-4 miles away). If a train travelling at more than 50mph hits something big, heavy & stong enough, it WILL come off the tracks.

 

[readingstockport]

Yoda, I'm only repeating what I have heard said by 'rail experts' and printed in the news media. That's why I said apparently. There are actually a few car/train 'incidents' each year but rarely does the train derail.

Still a bit of a twatty thing to do though.

And thanks, yes they were lucky. On their way home after Reading v the clayheads.

 

[Gwylan]

I've got to say if it was suicide, i do NOT have anger towards the guy who did it. If you are so desperate as to take your life in that way then you are obviously just really ill and I feel sorry for him.

Tragic all round.

If his grave does get desicrated then the people who do it are just not thinking. They would be destroying the grave (that his family will visit) of a man who was so ill he felt there was only one way out and as one last cry of help did it in this way (maybe hoping somone would get him and the car out of the way in time and get him some, obviously much needed, help).

He is someone's son, maybe someone's brother.
Talk about kicking them when they are down.

Don't get me wrong, the entire event is tragic and i know there were other people's family members who died on the train and I am sure people will come back on here and say 'what if your brother had been killed on the train, you'd hate the guy in the car then' but my point is what if your brother was the guy in the car. This man was NOT a fred west or ian huntley. He was probably just a desperate, ill man.


RIP i say.

Hear, hear. Calling this guy a twat and wanker is possibly the sort of thing that led to such drastic actions.

How much hatred of the world and himself must there have been to have contemplated such an act:he must have been in so much pain. Talk of other forms of suicide is irrelevant as you're assuming that there was a process of rational thought. It's desperately sad that so many people died or were injured but slagging off the memory of this unfortunate sod is less than helpful.

 

[Yorkie]

When someone in the family commits suicide then the rest of the family feel terribly guilty.

Why didn't we spot what was happening, why didn't we realise he/she felt that way etc etc.

This family have got an even bigger burden to carry now because of this person's actions. They don't care as they are dead.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I think it is difficult to judge someone who commits suicide unless you have been in the same position yourself.

Thankfully I have not so I will refrain from labelling him a wanker etc.

Yes, there were better ways he could have killed himself that did not kill others.

Yes, it is a sad and tragic day.

But, I doubt very much the person was thinking at all logically.

I think rather then blame the suicide victim people should look at the safety checks etc in place that allow such a tragic event to happen.

 

[king Wombat]

I think in many ways people who commit suicide are thinking logically. To label them as nutters is wrong as you are not in their situation. Maybe what people need to do is think what is the worse thing that could happen to them, then live through it every day.

after all life can be monotonous, what if life is monotous and shit?

I don't believe sucide is something anyone who hasn't seriously contemplated it can comprehend.

A large proportion of suicides are in reality 'accidents' ie they are pleas for help. Possibly this one was too in that the bloke hoped that he would not actually die but would get rescued.

Tragically he didnt.

Even more tragically innocent people died.