That old Fans United/war years spirit at the Albion...

[attila]

Lots of people have commented to me that it isn't there any more. I'm not so sure about that, but if it's gone let's have it back. I've said my bit, lots of you have said yours - now let's really get behind the lads, and Micky, at Cheltenham and do all we can to help them turn this crappy season round. SEAGULLS!

 

[Tubby Mondays]

The spirit was there to save the club and its worked up til now.

Hows the team and manager repaying us? The Manager calls the supporters idiots (the last one to do anything like that got the sack) and the team play like idiots.

 

[plymouth nige]

its very hard to resurrect that spirit when game in, game out we have to put up with the dross on show at the moment. That spirit came about for completely different reasons i.e. some arsehole trying to kill the club

 

[Knotty]

The spirit was there to save the club and its worked up til now.

Hows the team and manager repaying us? The Manager calls the supporters idiots (the last one to do anything like that got the sack) and the team play like idiots.

He didn't call the supporters idiots, he called a couple of supporters idiots who were just that.

Sounds like Atilla's wasting his time.

 

[NS Herald]

Lots of people have commented to me that it isn't there any more. I'm not so sure about that, but if it's gone let's have it back. I've said my bit, lots of you have said yours - now let's really get behind the lads, and Micky, at Cheltenham and do all we can to help them turn this crappy season round. SEAGULLS!

The sad difference this time round is we haven't got anyone else to blame, it has all been self inflicted. Not only have BHAFC shot itself in the foot it is in danger of shooting itself between the eyes.

This is all compounded by a manager who just doesn't accept the problems we can all see week in week out and perhaps if he was a little more humble and accepted a lot of what is being said is justified, it may make the situation slightly better.

The trouble is a civil war is spilling out and the actions of the club are making it worse and causing many fans to lose respect for previously respected people.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

The trouble is a civil war is spilling out and the actions of the club are making it worse and causing many fans to lose respect for previously respected people.

It's also causing many fans to OVERREACT!

It's only January. We're not down. We're not even in the relegation zone. We've got Falmer and we've got the players. They just need to pull their fingers out of their arse holes.

And they won't do that if people are constantly on their backs now will they.

Up the Albion!

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Lots of people have commented to me that it isn't there any more. I'm not so sure about that, but if it's gone let's have it back. I've said my bit, lots of you have said yours - now let's really get behind the lads, and Micky, at Cheltenham and do all we can to help them turn this crappy season round. SEAGULLS!

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[teaboy]

I think a major problem with trying to resurrect the 'spirit of the war years' is that there's nothing to fight for anymore. We have Falmer. The club isn't being destroyed by the Board. We aren't going out of existance. Relegation wouldn't be the end of the world anymore.

Also, it's hard to keep fighting after so many years. People have got used to the security of being able to watch BHA in Brighton. We're a 'normal' club again, and the building of Falmer will simply cement that fact (which in itself is something to celebrate!)

 

[eastlondonseagull]

I think a major problem with trying to resurrect the 'spirit of the war years' is that there's nothing to fight for anymore. We have Falmer. The club isn't being destroyed by the Board. We aren't going out of existance. Relegation wouldn't be the end of the world anymore.

Also, it's hard to keep fighting after so many years. People have got used to the security of being able to watch BHA in Brighton. We're a 'normal' club again, and the building of Falmer will simply cement that fact (which in itself is something to celebrate!)

Think you're right - it was the whole injustice of the situation that got the fans mobilized and motivated. And it took a hell of a lot out of us.

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[The Large One]

Civil war is spilling out?

Blimey.

Between who and whom?

 

[wigman]

Lots of people have commented to me that it isn't there any more. I'm not so sure about that, but if it's gone let's have it back. I've said my bit, lots of you have said yours - now let's really get behind the lads, and Micky, at Cheltenham and do all we can to help them turn this crappy season round. SEAGULLS!

Have you still got your banner that you displayed down the front of the North Stand?

 

[Silent Bob]

It's also causing many fans to OVERREACT!

It's only January. We're not down. We're not even in the relegation zone. We've got Falmer and we've got the players. They just need to pull their fingers out of their arse holes.

And they won't do that if people are constantly on their backs now will they.

It's causing some fans to bury their heads in the sand.
It's been obvious we're in trouble for months but if you said that on here it was dismissed, it's only October/November/December. What's going on on the pitch is plain to see I'm afraid.
The players aren't lazy, they are working fairly hard, but there seems to be no leadership or tactical guidance for them whatsoever. That is the problem. Not people booing when we lose at home week in week out.
While I'm on the subject of that, I hate it when people feel the need to slag off their fellow supporters and claim that they are somehow responsible for the situation. I can only assume these people don't pay much attention to anyone except Brighton fans. At any club in the country there would be boos if the performances were this dismal, in fact at MANY clubs it would be a lot worse than it is here.

 

[Ex-Staffs Gull]

This is all compounded by a manager who just doesn't accept the problems we can all see week in week out and perhaps if he was a little more humble and accepted a lot of what is being said is justified, it may make the situation slightly better.

I don't think he hasn't accepted that the results are crap and performances are not what is expected, he has just refused to slag the players off in public. Who knows what has been said in the dressing room. How would it help the current situation if he said 'We were shocking and quite frankly half the squad are not up to it.' It might please a few fans, but it is not going to help him get the best out of his players. He has said we were not good enough on a couple of occaisions, but he is now in defense mode.

Get behind them and see if it makes a difference. If the fans are onside then you give him 'no excuse' to attack the fans and he then has to comment on the performance much more.

All I would say is that I thought on Tuesday the players look scared to commit to something incase it went wrong and the fans turned on them. If they are not worried about the fans at Withdean turning on them for a mistake, then they will play with more confidence.

I agreed with Atillas comments to a large degree, and now agree again, lets be positive and see where it gets us. The manager in the end will live or die by his results, but not short term.

 

[wehatepalace]

Local Rugby and Football Matches Tomorrow

EDIT should have been a new thread !! DOH

 

[We're the Stripes]

Isn't it also the case that for some time results and performances away from home have generally been better, precisely because the fans get behind the team and actually try to *support* them?

We are going to have much more chance of getting out of this mess and climbing the table if the team feels it actually has fans who can make a positive difference, rather than just slagging them and the manager off? Yes, Withdean's a hole and the football has been poor, but as others have pointed out, we've been in far worse shape and got through it.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Isn't it also the case that for some time results and performances away from home have generally been better, precisely because the fans get behind the team and actually try to *support* them?

In a nutshell, yes.

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[Taybha]

to be honest i cant stand going to withdean and made to feel uncomfortable in certain sections of the south stand when i offload my wise words of how we should be playing or joining in with a song or 2,i cant understand why thousands of so called fans would basicly sit there in silence only to be heard if we score or we f*** up.

the atmosphere away from home is totaly different and its fun even if we do take a beating i can still say i had a good day,these miserable twats who choose to just sit there and f***ing do nothing but whinge can just get to f*** in my book,and those that hide behind their pc and dont even bother to go to games and slag the club off well you know what? you can f*** off too,yes there are fans on here that live in 3rd world countries that obviously cant go to games but im talking of the ones that blatantly slag off because they have bugga all else to do with their lives.

so dont come on here saying your entitled to your opinions when you havnt earned the right to one,we as fans have been through so much tosh over the years,yes with the odd highlight here n there but in the main its a grind being a Brighton and hove albion fan.

The team needs people who will get behind them even when we are behind and playing poorly,not a bunch of moaning fannies who for some reason decide to leave 15 mins b4 the end of a home game to beat the crush? f*** sake do me a favour we get crowds of 6000 not 60,000.

In the scheme of things if we support the team we therfore support the manager and i know its not a bed of roses for us as fans at the moment but this club has to move forward with the stadium taking shape it must not fail,and if your a supporter of this club then support it and stop being a flange. ok im done happy easter.

 

[warsaw]

I think that the "Withdean Factor" does affect the players but I'm not sure we fully realise how much it affects us, the fans. Week in week out we come to a dreadful 'stadium' where the facilities are appalling. You have to walk miles for a piss, the food is shit, there's no atmoshere, and you get soaked to the skin, and then to make things worse the football is shit too.

So perhaps we feel that we DESERVE a succesful team just because we have the balls to turn up at all, and maybe we are not as patient as we might be in a stadium where the overall EXPERIENCE is great.

 

[mona]

Hows the team and manager repaying us? The Manager calls the supporters idiots

20 minutes on here convinces me that he is basically right. Certainly people who take quotes out of context either have a particular agenda or need to improve their reading skills.
Sadly the supporters' divisions that allowed Stanley to get hold of BHA and bring in his mate Bill have re-appeared.