[News] Terror Attack New York

[Tyrone Biggums]

There seems to be some confusion between the IRA,and the Provisional IRA.The Provos are,for the main part,extreme left wing socialists who have no time for any religion.The original IRA that won independence for Eire were backed by the Catholic church,the Provos were backed by the Islamic extremist regime of Gadafi,and a few quid from Irish-Americans.

And the Church of Ireland Protestants. Their contributions to the Republican cause should not be understated. People like Charles Stewart Parnell for one.

 

[Hamilton]

One of the most stupid posts i have read on NSC. How many terror attacks have taken place in USA since Trump took over as president? Compared to say, London? I suppose you blame Trump for 9/11 too?

Depends on your definition of terror. I would imagine that many of those in Las Vegas were terrified when a lone gunman fired into the crowd for his own reasons. I could also mention the daily shootings that happen in the USA and other mass shootings. I anticipate the mix of Trump's isolationism on the one hand and clumsy foreign policy on the other will make attacks such as this more likely rather than less likely.

And if mine is "one of the most stupid posts" you have ever read on NSC, then you're not that good at spotting stupidity are you?

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

It was inevitable that this kind of incident would happen in New York after the attacks in London and Europe. New Yorkers, like Londoners, are resilient and will carry on with their lives - otherwise these f****** have won. There will be a lot of defiant New Yorkers lining the marathon route on Sunday.

 

[oneillco]

They havent , the communities surrounding them are the ones creating the problems.

You are having what I believe is known as "a laugh". And noted that you don't refute the UVF association.

 

[Withdean11]

Depends on your definition of terror. I would imagine that many of those in Las Vegas were terrified when a lone gunman fired into the crowd for his own reasons. I could also mention the daily shootings that happen in the USA and other mass shootings. I anticipate the mix of Trump's isolationism on the one hand and clumsy foreign policy on the other will make attacks such as this more likely rather than less likely.

And if mine is "one of the most stupid posts" you have ever read on NSC, then you're not that good at spotting stupidity are you?

'Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror, or fear, to achieve a political, religious or ideological aim.'

I do not class the Vegas shooter as a terrorist, because we do not know his motive. Not because he was white.

Trump has policies in place to prevent Islamic terrorism, and in large, they appear to be working. Britain, France, Germany etc. have a complete opposite approach, which is failing.

i wouldn't even expect Perseus to blame Trump for this attack. Though he might explain that if the attacker was left footed it would have been prevented.

 

[alfredmizen]

You are having what I believe is known as "a laugh". And noted that you don't refute the UVF association.

Get out to Ardoyne much do you ? Know many of the residents ? I fcking do , i dont rely on sf/ira propaganda , and id love to know just what you mean by ''associated'' , you talk the typical bollox of the frustrated plastic paddy.

 

[Hamilton]

'Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror, or fear, to achieve a political, religious or ideological aim.'

I do not class the Vegas shooter as a terrorist, because we do not know his motive. Not because he was white.

Trump has policies in place to prevent Islamic terrorism, and in large, they appear to be working. Britain, France, Germany etc. have a complete opposite approach, which is failing.

i wouldn't even expect Perseus to blame Trump for this attack. Though he might explain that if the attacker was left footed it would have been prevented.

I assume the death of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville can be explained away by you as well?

I'm not sure what the colour of the Vegas shooter has to do with the shooting either? However, successive presidents have been unable to implement gun control and Trump appears to be moving away from the issue faster than his predecessors. Therefore, policy is fuelling acts of terror which are indiscriminate and intentional and are undertaken to make a point. The Vegas shooting was not a Sunday afternoon activity. It had a point, we will just never know what it was. However, it is possible to make events less likely rather than more likely.

 

[Triggaaar]

People who do this are clearly not mentally right. They've been brainwashed, fed lies and encouraged in almost all cases to kill themselves in the name of a cause. Thats hardly sane.

It's not insanity though. No more that our local church goers who believe Jesus was the son of god and resurrected after his death.

 

[vegster]

Get out to Ardoyne much do you ? Know many of the residents ? I fcking do , i dont rely on sf/ira propaganda , and id love to know just what you mean by ''associated'' , you talk the typical bollox of the frustrated plastic paddy.

I think you should about see the irony now of referring to the " religion of peace "... Bravo!

 

[Triggaaar]

Of course the guy is probably doing it 'in the name of Islam', but you need to put some clear blue water between the evilness of the people that do this, and a religion that many people just want to observe.

I certainly don't put the blame of terrorist at the foot of all Muslims, but I wouldn't say it's a religion they just want to observe, not in the way many Christians pop along to church now and then. The decent Muslims still believe that the Quran is the actual word of god, that we didn't involve from other primates etc. It's quite a dangerous starting point IMO.

These guys don't believe in anything to do with religion

The ones killing themselves do.

We need to root out the individuals rather than attack the religion.

I think some frank debates about the religion itself are needed.

 

[Sheebo]

I think it's time to stop a certain type of person (looks wise) hiring these big vehicles. Don't care if it's a pain for the huge majority of innocent men who look like that. Had enough now.

If you were in New York area and that fella came to hire a massive truck are you saying you wouldn't have alarm bells hiring it to him?

I'm sure someone will flame me for this but it's time to act & if it's discriminating to nice normal people but saves lives of innocent people it's worth it. If all these terrorists looked like me I'd happily expect and want to be searched a lot more as I border a plane etc...

 

[oneillco]

Get out to Ardoyne much do you ? Know many of the residents ? I fcking do , i dont rely on sf/ira propaganda , and id love to know just what you mean by ''associated'' , you talk the typical bollox of the frustrated plastic paddy.

Hahaha! Can you bring one of your big drums to a match?

 

[Exile]

I think it's time to stop a certain type of person (looks wise) hiring these big vehicles. Don't care if it's a pain for the huge majority of innocent men who look like that. Had enough now.

If you were in New York area and that fella came to hire a massive truck are you saying you wouldn't have alarm bells hiring it to him?

I'm sure someone will flame me for this but it's time to act & if it's discriminating to nice normal people but saves lives of innocent people it's worth it. If all these terrorists looked like me I'd happily expect and want to be searched a lot more as I border a plane etc...

a. It wasn't a massive truck - it was a small pick-up.
b. the attacker was not middle-Eastern (he was an Uzbek) so probably didn't even fit your preconception
c. what about white men, like the Finsbury Park terrorist? Should they be allowed to hire vans?

Apart from that, great post

 

[looney]

tbf Buzzer, if we had spent the last 20 years bombing Sikhs, Baptists, Hindus etc, I would imagine there would be some sort of reaction from the poor, and easily led by people who have decided that what they say is Gods will etc.
How many terror attacks by Muslims in the UK or even generally, before we joined the USA in their crusade? We have bombed the shit out of the ME. Muslim youths in the UK and elsewhere, will feel empathy, and targeted on account of their relgion.
and now theres a whole new couple of generations who have known nothing else except war. Its a horrible situation.

We spent longer killing catholics in Ulster(to put it very crudley in leftist terms.), I dont see Catholics out for a pound of flesh

Quislings are out in force on here I see.

 

[Sheebo]

a. It wasn't a massive truck.
b. the attacker was not middle-Eastern he was an Uzbek) so probably didn't even fit your preconception
c. what about white men, like the Finsbury Park terrorist? Should they be allowed to hire vans?

Apart from that, great post

a) It was a big vehicle - a truck, hired the same as the others have been.
b) He looks exactly like all the other terrorists to me that shout the same bullshit when they kill innocent people.
c) It's a lot less common and was a retaliation attack - as equally horrendous as it was.

I'm all up for equality in all walks of life but if you have to do small things such as this to save lives of innocent people then so be it. You can't go too PC with this shit anymore - it's time to make changes. Are you saying Muslims shouldn't be always searched when boarding a plane? They really should be. And if they're decent normal living people they'd understand why. I would totally understand - and I'd happily let this small pain in the arse thing slide to help save lives because the scum people have a similar appearance...

Apart from that, great post

 

[Two Professors]

I think it's time to stop a certain type of person (looks wise) hiring these big vehicles. Don't care if it's a pain for the huge majority of innocent men who look like that. Had enough now.

If you were in New York area and that fella came to hire a massive truck are you saying you wouldn't have alarm bells hiring it to him?

I'm sure someone will flame me for this but it's time to act & if it's discriminating to nice normal people but saves lives of innocent people it's worth it. If all these terrorists looked like me I'd happily expect and want to be searched a lot more as I border a plane etc...

As the area he was living in,Paterson NJ,has a very high concentration of moslems,he probably hired it from one of his fellows.Apparently his English is very poor.

 

[Sheebo]

As the area he was living in,Paterson NJ,has a very high concentration of moslems,he probably hired it from one of his fellows.Apparently his English is very poor.

I must admit I haven't read hardly anything about this case - it's just the same upsetting crap isn't it. I'm just saying everyone should start looking at ways to stop these cowardly acts as this seems the latest terrorist craze - the hiring bit.

 

[Exile]

a) It was a big vehicle - a truck, hired the same as the others have been.

No it wasn't. There are plenty of pictures of it on every news source.

As the area he was living in,Paterson NJ,has a very high concentration of moslems,he probably hired it from one of his fellows.Apparently his English is very poor.

It was from Home Depot (B&Q)

I must admit I haven't read hardly anything about this case - it's just the same upsetting crap isn't it. I'm just saying everyone should start looking at ways to stop these cowardly acts as this seems the latest terrorist craze - the hiring bit.

Sorry Sheebo - nothing wrong with trying to think of solutions, but this is an utterly ridiculous suggestion. Who exactly are you including in your profile of people who should be banned from hiring vehicles? Everyone with a tan and a beard? So no law abiding middle-eastern / Asian / north African / just a bit tanned guy with a beard is allowed to hire a vehicle for their business / to move house / get some fence panels home from B&Q (though presumably the real terrorist still can so long as he has a shave first).

What about all the Somali / Nigerian muslim potential terrorists? Better include all black men in your hiring ban too.

Hang on - what about Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Serbia, etc. Plenty of muslims there who don't look like your first examples.

Best just ban hire vans, full stop.

 

[heathgate]

On the other hand, let us assume for a moment that these atrocities occur only because of Islam. Simple solution. Lock up all muslims. I have suggested this before on here and found no takers. Why? It is a simple and elegant solution, surely?

If it is not then I would like to see a thoughtful explanation why not - from someone who thinks that Islam is the root cause of all these attacks. Internment. The Canadians locked up all the local Japanse during the war (including the wife of a friend of mine). Simple solutions.....why is nobody advocating this rather than emoting in the usual fashion?

Obviously I don't buy into any of this bollocks. So I think the people who make lazy sniping comments associating terrorism with all muslims are the worst type of coward - sitting at home on a football forum effectively goading spotty teenagers to burn down the corner shop. Just face it - its just Victor Meldrew syndrome.

Reason why I'm cross? Because some poor ********, trying to earn a crust, are likely to get their corner shop torched tonight. It won't bring back the dead from elsewhere, whether it be those killed by ISIS or those killed by the IRA. They are dead.. Breaking news - vigilantism does not lead to resurection. Fact.

However you dress it up... of course not all Moslems are terrorists, anyone with half a brain knows that, but it is irrefutable that at the moment, in recent years, and probably for decades to come, virtually all terrorists ARE Moslem.

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[Sheebo]

No it wasn't. There are plenty of pictures of it on every news source.



It was from Home Depot (B&Q)



Sorry Sheebo - nothing wrong with trying to think of solutions, but this is an utterly ridiculous suggestion. Who exactly are you including in your profile of people who should be banned from hiring vehicles? Everyone with a tan and a beard? So no law abiding middle-eastern / Asian / north African / just a bit tanned guy with a beard is allowed to hire a vehicle for their business / to move house / get some fence panels home from B&Q (though presumably the real terrorist still can so long as he has a shave first).

What about all the Somali / Nigerian muslim potential terrorists? Better include all black men in your hiring ban too.

Hang on - what about Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Serbia, etc. Plenty of muslims there who don't look like your first examples.

Best just ban hire vans, full stop.

Point taken - it's a bit OTT. Mate anyone who the authorities are suspicious of then..