[Albion] Telegraph article on the Albion wastefulness in front of goal

[b.w.2.]

so, are you the tide?

No, swimming against it


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[b.w.2.]

My post was trying to drill down into why and how they are missing, not to claim that they aren't missing. You seem so intent on arguing with people on here that you do it even when people aren't actually disagreeing with you.

By the way. There is no NSC clique. There are just lots of people with myriad points of view. Trying to pretend that all of those who disagree with your view are an organised cadre out to do you down is a dishonest way of arguing that distracts from your actual point. You are not a brave voice arguing with the establishment, you are just another poster with yet another opinion: exactly the same as the rest of us.

Some of the poster’s posts on here seem to suggest otherwise but, hey, at least I am not alone


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[rogersix]

No, swimming against it


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a large majority on here want a better striker tho'; do see what i mean, it doesn't make sense?

 

[Icy Gull]

Some of the poster’s posts on here seem to suggest otherwise but, hey, at least I am not alone


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Care to link a single post on NSC in the last couple of months that says that we don’t need better strikers?

There are plenty that suggest stamping your feet and spitting your dummy out doesn’t make a signing more likely though

I’ll grant you that a few are blaming Potter for our strikers not being up to scratch though, your new found mate being one of them

 

[Wardy's twin]

Yep, glad he's not paid to be a striker..

That said, he'll probably bag a brace tonight..

Not sure if modern football is so definite about the roles players occupy unlike Netball. I think we all think he should score more but most are more supportive.

 

[Charity Shield 1910]

Care to link a single post on NSC in the last couple of months that says that we don’t need better strikers?

There are plenty that suggest stamping your feet and spitting your dummy out doesn’t make a signing more likely though

I’ll grant you that a few are blaming Potter for our strikers not being up to scratch though, your new found mate being one of them

If you are referring to me, then can you quote me correctly? I have never blamed Potter for the strikers not being up to scratch. I do agree with you that they have not been but except Wellbeck, they were at the club when he joined. As for Wellbeck then who knows whose decision that was. I only criticise for picking Maupay every week instead of recognising they have all been poor, then shaking it up, by some proper competition up front, including converting other member of the squad to a temporary striker. I also don't think Maupay is any better or worse than the other options.

 

[Icy Gull]

If you are referring to me, then can you quote me correctly? I have never blamed Potter for the strikers not being up to scratch. I do agree with you that they have not been but except Wellbeck, they were at the club when he joined. As for Wellbeck then who knows whose decision that was. I only criticise for picking Maupay every week instead of recognising they have all been poor, then shaking it up, by some proper competition up front, including converting other member of the squad to a temporary striker. I also don't think Maupay is any better or worse than the other options.

Yep I am thinking of you

Didn’t you suggest a bit more practice would make them better and suggest Potter sorted it? If not I apologise

 

[Weststander]

Care to link a single post on NSC in the last couple of months that says that we don’t need better strikers?

There are plenty that suggest stamping your feet and spitting your dummy out doesn’t make a signing more likely though

I’ll grant you that a few are blaming Potter for our strikers not being up to scratch though, your new found mate being one of them

Cough. The recent OP & thread that defended our strikers as quality, and blamed our goal shy midfield.

 

[Icy Gull]

Cough. The recent OP & thread that defended our strikers as quality, and blamed our goal shy midfield.

What nutter used the word quality to refer to our strikers (at PL level)?

I hope it wasn’t me when I’d had to much to drink

 

[Charity Shield 1910]

Yep I am thinking of you

Didn’t you suggest a bit more practice would make them better and suggest Potter sorted it? If not I apologise

Yes I do think they need to make shooting harder in practice. But ultimately, the main criticism is that he has not created competition for places and picked the same bloke week in week out. This is poor, but still I'm not a "Potter out". I am keen not to "choose a side". Praise where I think it's due - to the midfield and changing the keeper (albeit late). Now he has to be a leader and address the forward line IMHO.

 

[Swansman]

Cough. The recent OP & thread that defended our strikers as quality, and blamed our goal shy midfield.

I wouldnt mind better strikers. Its just not the main problem, in my opinion.

 

[Frankworthington]

I wouldnt mind better strikers. Its just not the main problem, in my opinion.

What is?

What positions would you improve? Bearing in mind we have a very large squad at the moment?

 

[Charity Shield 1910]

What is?

What positions would you improve? Bearing in mind we have a very large squad at the moment?

I understand he thinks the midfield should take responsibility for winning the midfield battle and on top of that scoring the goals as well, with the centre forwards being kind enough to chip in 2 or 3 a season from open play. How Brighton are going to afford a midfielder who can score 15 goals a season and play Spurs off the park at the same time isn't quite known.

 

[rogersix]

I understand he thinks the midfield should take responsibility for winning the midfield battle and on top of that scoring the goals as well, with the centre forwards being kind enough to chip in 2 or 3 a season from open play. How Brighton are going to afford a midfielder who can score 15 goals a season and play Spurs off the park at the same time isn't quite known.

if we play 4 mfs and 2 wbs to 1 striker, you can't expect him to bang in 50 or 60 a season

 

[Charity Shield 1910]

if we play 4 mfs and 2 wbs to 1 striker, you can't expect him to bang in 50 or 60 a season

Given our forwards get at least one chance every game they should score from, plus 3 to 4 half chances, then we can expect more than what 3 or 4 from open play all season. If you have a limited budget, like we do down the Albion, then to have a midfield playing most sides off the park in the midfield is a minor miracle. If we are to improve, we need to look at what can be done up front IMHO.

 

[Swansman]

What is?

What positions would you improve? Bearing in mind we have a very large squad at the moment?

Sell/loan out a couple of midfielders and strikers and bring in two wingers and perhaps a dirty AMC (Mac Allister could compete for the Gross role).


Top 25 in the PL top scorer sharts:
12 strikers, 9 wingers, 4 attacking/central/defensive midfielders. In modern football teams usually score almost as much from the wings as from central strikers... meaning that having a couple of good wingers is a good recipe to score more goals. Maupays Firmino-like play style would be a lot more useful with some dirty wingers to link up with and hopefully The Magic New Striker will be of a similar kind, only taller and stronger. Maupay created more chances for his teammates than his teammates created for him in a number of games (12 times just in the two last games), would be nice to see someone make use of that.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

If we are to improve, we need to look at what can be done up front IMHO.

Interesting. Have you thought about emailing the club ?

 

[Deadly Danson]

I understand he thinks the midfield should take responsibility for winning the midfield battle and on top of that scoring the goals as well, with the centre forwards being kind enough to chip in 2 or 3 a season from open play. How Brighton are going to afford a midfielder who can score 15 goals a season and play Spurs off the park at the same time isn't quite known.

Trossard, Lallana, MacAllister, March, Bissouma and co should ABSOLUTELY be scoring a few more each. Plus it amazes me that our tall defenders don't score more. Look at how the goals are shared by Leicester for example. In fact, let's not forget how many Knockaert scored for us in our promotion season. None of which let's our strikers off the hook and we all know they need to do better (as do they of course but you seem to want them to come out and tell us that publicly for some reason).

 

[Charity Shield 1910]

Trossard, Lallana, MacAllister, March, Bissouma and co should ABSOLUTELY be scoring a few more each. Plus it amazes me that our tall defenders don't score more. Look at how the goals are shared by Leicester for example. In fact, let's not forget how many Knockaert scored for us in our promotion season. None of which let's our strikers off the hook and we all know they need to do better (as do they of course but you seem to want them to come out and tell us that publicly for some reason).

Not everyone does think they should be doing better, because xbox tells them something else apparently. I might be being over generous but I am loathed to criticise a Brighton midfield that has played almost every side off the park in the top flight of English football, including clubs like Spurs and Man United. We have a limited budget, the defence is doing OK, the midfield has been superb, and he has changed the keeper (albeit a few months late). It's harsh to blame the midfield, really very harsh. They keep creating the chances for the forwards, who just don't score. It might be the difference between Championship keepers and Premier league keepers that Maupay is up against.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

No you are over-complicating a ****ing obvious problem. You are the one who needs a reality check, and stop spouting endless excuses for our failings up front3 you and your sheep-like cronies.


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There may be an obvious problem, but solving it might be the difficult part.

I had a conversation with my science Ph.D niece once a while ago where I said “it’s not rocket science”. Her reply was “Rocket science is very straightforward. It’s making it work that is the difficult bit.”