Techie broadband question

[Tricky Dicky]

Chaps - I know a fair bit about software but b*gger all about hardware. I have a BT broadband line which works fine over a modem, but I want to go wireless and hook up another PC to t'internet.

All the shops tell me that BT broadband is ADSL and they sell me an ADSL router/modem - but I suspect this is not right.

The modem that works currently (supplied by BT) has on the front of it "DSL modem" (as do the filters). I can get the router working pretty much with the PCs talking to each other but can't get on the web. I think I have a DSL line - can anyone enlighten me please ?

Thanks,
TD.

 

[clippedgull]

If you have broadband then you will be on ADSL.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

If you have broadband then you will be on ADSL.

That is what everyone tells me, but

a) My current working modem appears to be DSL (unless it can handle ADSL as well, but I don't know if that's possible)

b) I plug in the ADSL modem/router and it can't connect to my ISP (apparently no signal)

 

[clippedgull]

That is what everyone tells me, but

a) My current working modem appears to be DSL (unless it can handle ADSL as well, but I don't know if that's possible)

b) I plug in the ADSL modem/router and it can't connect to my ISP (apparently no signal)

whats the router model and number of both?

 

[bhaexpress]

Okay, you may have an ADSL modem but in order to get it to use WiFi you need to add a Wif Fi Router. Within this you need to consider your IP Settings. To be on the safe side it would be far more simple if you called your existing ISP for advice as they should be able to give to a decent answer based on your current set up.

 

[Hiney]

ADSL and DSL are the same thing aren't they?

The new router - have you entered all your BT log-on details in the relevant screen?

I've got a Netgear wireless router and that works perfectly well with my BT Broadband service.

I'm sure it's something to do with the way the router is set up rather than the broadband service.

 

[haardman]

You can't have a modem & an ADSL router plugged in at the same time. Much more simple to get an ADSL Wireless Router. They range from £30-over £100.
Wireless - Routers - ADSL - Ebuyer

It will have 4 wired ports on the back for ethernet network cables, and a wireless signal that can be connected to, using any wifi compatible device.

So if you want to connect a standard PC, I'd suggest a USB WiFi device, if it's an old laptop (without it built in) then look at an internal mini-PCI (bit tricky, depends on laptop model), or a PCMCIA card, or a USB device (exactly like the PC).
USB: Wireless - Adapters - USB - Ebuyer
PCMCIA: Wireless - Adapters - PC Cards - Ebuyer

Personally I'd avoid Belkin & re-branded stuff. Netgear, Linksys, etc.. are all good.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

whats the router model and number of both?

The working modem is an Intel Anypoint 3240 DSL modem - the modem/router I'm trying to connect is a Belkin ADSL one. I can talk between the PCs fine, it's just the web I can't get to.

 

[clippedgull]

The working modem is an Intel Anypoint 3240 DSL modem - the modem/router I'm trying to connect is a Belkin ADSL one. I can talk between the PCs fine, it's just the web I can't get to.

As stated above, make sure you enter your log on details into the new router.

Read the manual to find out out how to get the relevant screen up but it's usually http://192.168.0.1

If that doesn't work call BT Broadband customer services for help.

 

[Badger]

The A in ADSL means Asynchrounous i.e. the download speed is faster than the upload speed, unless you are paying a lot of money for your subscription you will definitely have ADSL and most forms of DSL should be compatible with the same hardware. It sounds like you just need to get the right ISP settings from BT setup in the router

 

[bhaexpress]

You can't have a modem & an ADSL router plugged in at the same time.

Really ? Well how come my set up works then ? Don't put 'advice' like that on here when anybody who does know what they're doing can see that you don't. Currently I have a BT ADSL modem connected to a Netgear Router which then runs a Wi Fi network to seven PCs spread over several acres of land. We also use a Line Access Unit (used to be called a repeater).

 

[Tricky Dicky]

As stated above, make sure you enter your log on details into the new router.

Read the manual to find out out how to get the relevant screen up but it's usually http://192.168.0.1

If that doesn't work call BT Broadband customer services for help.

Yeah, that is the correct address for the modem/router set up page. I'll carry on playing with it. Thx.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

You can't have a modem & an ADSL router plugged in at the same time.

Yes you can as the modem is just a telephony device exactly the same as a phone. The filter will allow a modem to be plugged into the phone interface and operate perfectly by placing a phone call to any other modem.

*** FIXTURES - sorry bhaexpress ! ***

 

[Badger]

You can't have a modem & an ADSL router plugged in at the same time.

It all depends on the router, what is often advertised as an ADSL Router is actually a router with an ADSL modem built in. If you buy a standard cable/ethernet router you will need to use the modem too but I would suggest using an ADSL Modem/Router because they are a lot easier to set up.

 

[bhaexpress]

Yes you can as the modem is just a telephony device exactly the same as a phone. The filter will allow a modem to be plugged into the phone interface and operate perfectly by placing a phone call to any other modem.

*** FIXTURES - sorry bhaexpress ! ***

No problem, great minds think alike !

 

[bhaexpress]

It all depends on the router, what is often advertised as an ADSL Router is actually a router with an ADSL modem built in. If you buy a standard cable/ethernet router you will need to use the modem too but I would suggest using an ADSL Modem/Router because they are a lot easier to set up.

Not true, apart from physically connecting the Wifi Router to the ADSL modem (hardly rocket science) the set up is identical. The big question is whether you can use DHCP or fixed IPs including DNS Addresses. (You can get DNS Server Addresses on Google but your ISP should be able to provide all your IP settings).

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Blimey - I've done it. I knew it was to do with the setup page on the router and for 2 days I have missed the little button in the bottom right of the screen on the WAN setup which said "Next" - I entered my ISP details and hey presto I'm webbed up !

Thanks chaps.
TD.

 

[haardman]

Really ? Well how come my set up works then ? Don't put 'advice' like that on here when anybody who does know what they're doing can see that you don't. Currently I have a BT ADSL modem connected to a Netgear Router which then runs a Wi Fi network to seven PCs spread over several acres of land. We also use a Line Access Unit (used to be called a repeater).

Sorry, should have said "adsl modem" and "adsl router" at the same time. Should know better than to leave any level of ambiguity on a web post.

 

[bhaexpress]

Sorry, should have said "adsl modem" and "adsl router" at the same time. Should know better than to leave any level of ambiguity on a web post.

You're still wrong. What you should have said is an ADSL Router/Modem (which is what you normally get these days) cannot be used along side an ADSL modem (the fact that you only have one connection to the line gives that away). You can use an ADSL Modem AND Router in combo as Westdene and I have said.

 

[Badger]

You're still wrong. What you should have said is an ADSL Router/Modem (which is what you normally get these days) cannot be used along side an ADSL modem (the fact that you only have one connection to the line gives that away). You can use an ADSL Modem AND Router in combo as Westdene and I have said.

Does this kind of nitpicking give you a hard-on or something?