Tactical Voting in the Election

[Shropshire Seagull]

Skim reading this thread - I'm seeing a lot of Labour supporters concede that, this time round, their vote will not have an influence on the outcome for their constituency.

Can't be that every Labour candidate has suddenly become "unelectable" so all those marginal voters must be looking at the wider picture and coming to the conclusion that Labour, as a Government, do not currently meet their needs.

Market forces eh?

 

[Tyreman123]

Oh my god!...Jeremy Corbyn a man whose own party parliamentary colleagues don't really want him (all are being quiet at the moment!), is managing to convince a lot of people that he actually wont bankrupt the country! Get real people...everything he says, and for every issue he has only one answer..."don't worry I will throw money at it , the rich will pay!!" ....Brilliant ...he is a very clever man. let me tell you this, the rich are rich because they know how to keep their money, and he wont raise nearly enough from just the top echelon, that he thinks will pay for all of his ridiculously costed policies. if you middle income guys think happy days- im ok Jack, then think again, if you earn under £80000 and really believe that youre gonna be no worse off then I suggest you wake up quite quickly! !! im not particularly fond of the Tories tbh but the alternative is just unthinkable.

 

[The Large One]

Skim reading this thread - I'm seeing a lot of Labour supporters concede that, this time round, their vote will not have an influence on the outcome for their constituency.

Can't be that every Labour candidate has suddenly become "unelectable" so all those marginal voters must be looking at the wider picture and coming to the conclusion that Labour, as a Government, do not currently meet their needs.

Market forces eh?

A lot of NSCers live in strong Tory-held constituencies across Sussex. It's not about their Labour candidate 'suddenly' becoming unelectable. They never have been. Even in the Labour landslides of 1997 and 2001, most of Sussex remained Tory. That should tell you all you need to know.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Vote for change otherwise you can kiss goodbye to the "great" country you love

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[Albumen]

I couldn't vote for someone I don't support. I just believe that's wrong and symptomatic of the negative politics we seem to be burdened with on all sides.

This election is the first proper Left vs Right in decades and people are seeing it as such. They know a coalition would include their party one way or another so they're voting for the Left or Right final result.

 

[sparkie]

I'm a big fan of people voting tactically if they want to.

It is their right to, so no complaints from me, and I applaud their choice.

 

[tinycowboy]

Tactical voting for me: I am pretty much diametrically opposed to the views of my MP (https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10065/julian_brazier/canterbury/votes), in fact, appalled by most of them. Labour are the only party who can defeat him, but it would take some pretty co-ordinated voting to do so. Don't like the FPTP system. Presumably we're meant to be voting for a party, who is represented by a local candidate, ie we're not just voting for the candidate - not sure what you're supposed to do if you really want to vote for a national party, but you have an excellent local candidate who doesn't represent the party you support - I imagine this is a qualm relevant for some in the Brighton Pavilion constituency.

 

[Billy the Fish]

One thing that's for sure, the political landscape is changing. I wonder if PR will seem more palatable to the big parties now that websites like vote swap are taking off.

 

[Albumen]

I'm Labour, but voting for Caroline Lucas

I'm in Hove and visa versa. We've swapped votes, job done.

 

[Hiney]

Hopefully Mike Thornton will get back in there. He was a mate of mine 20 years ago, and sat next to me at work when I worked in Eastleigh - decent bloke, very principled and reasonably local (he is playing on that, but in reality he's from Winchester, not Eastleligh).

In Eastleigh, the Lib Dems have always been the only party has tried to actually do something, instead of just WHINGING about the other parties.

It's just disappointing that the 'Beer, Baccy & Scatchings' party have decided not to stand.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I honestly don't know how people can have an issue with tactical voting when we have first passed the post.

If you don't like tactical voting, then at least have the good sense to also accept the system is what produces it, not the people.

Not supporting 1 particular party is every bit as democratic as supporting a party. Therefore, voting to keep out the 1 party you don't like, IS every bit as valid as voting for the party you do like. That is a reality. It is down to every person to choose how they wish to use their vote. In our democratic system, there is no right or wrong in how you decide to use that vote.

The fact is, many people vote Labour / Libs / Green / SNP etc. because they are left of centre policies that overlap. So of course, if you cannot choose between them as you like more than one (not everyone has to agree with one particular party) then you may wish to use your vote to keep the right of centre party out. Honestly, use YOUR vote for the purpose that best suits your political aims.

 

[beorhthelm]

Who said anything about 'buying back' utilities? The government will simply set up its own water, mail and electric etc. suppliers, offering cheaper tariffs, and compete with the current companies. Here's one way of looking at it. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ioan-marc-jones/can-britain-afford-to-nationalise_b_8006458.html

Labour says they are buying back utilities, its pretty clear in the manifesto they intend to bring the assets and services back into public ownership. its only in energy they suggest there will be create state owned alternatives, and even then the intention is that they gradually purchase the assets. and it will be paid for with debt, or variation on the QE method in the article. they have promised 500bn of investment and lending, that has to go somewhere.

 

[glasfryn]

Same in Eastbourne.

me too
Lloyd is not that a bad bloke

EDIT
and anything to get the tory out

 

[Moshe Gariani]

me too
Lloyd is not that a bad bloke

EDIT
and anything to get the tory out

I voted Lloyd when he won.

I voted for Jake last time - hoping that Lloyd would still win. And we got Caroline Ansell.

No brainer to vote Lloyd this time and cross fingers that he wins.

 

[Badger]

I wanted to vote Lib Dem but they're not represented in Brighton Pavilion. I'm not going to be forced into a tactical vote. So, for the first time in my adult life I won't be voting.

 

[whitelion]

I wanted to vote Lib Dem but they're not represented in Brighton Pavilion. I'm not going to be forced into a tactical vote. So, for the first time in my adult life I won't be voting.

So you're not in Toronto?

 

[Badger]

So you're not in Toronto?

I can still vote in the last constituency I lived in. Plus I'm likely to move back to Brighton before the next election.

 

[whitelion]

I can still vote in the last constituency I lived in. Plus I'm likely to move back to Brighton before the next election.

I wasn't aware of voting rights.

Hope you enjoy the rest of your time in Toronto.

 

[beorhthelm]

Not supporting 1 particular party is every bit as democratic as supporting a party. Therefore, voting to keep out the 1 party you don't like, IS every bit as valid as voting for the party you do like. That is a reality. It is down to every person to choose how they wish to use their vote. In our democratic system, there is no right or wrong in how you decide to use that vote.

what you're highlighting is that its a negative act, voting against something instead of for something.

 

[Badger]

I wasn't aware of voting rights.

Hope you enjoy the rest of your time in Toronto.

Yeah, you can vote for up to 15 years apparently.

Thanks.