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[Albion] Swansman "vs." Paul Barber



Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Someone said that Paul Barber generally replies to emails, so I sent him a wall of text that I won't post here as a few here would be offended.

I explained I'm an outsider who has never visited Brighton and thanked him and the club for the good job they're (seemingly) doing, and then I brought up some "commonly mentioned issues" that I've noticed around here. I am a curious person and wanted to try how easy it is to communicate with the club.

Few hours later - response from Barber! I dont know if this is interesting or if theres any perspectives from Barber that could be considered new or unexpected, but here it is - a summarizedversion of my "suggestions" and the responses from Barber.

Many supporters feel that "Ring of Fire" is perhaps not the best pre-match music
Barber: "we review our match day build-up and music choices before every season. It doesn’t just have to work for fans in the stadium, it has to work with our players and coaches’ requirements too, and also fit with strict timings determined by the Premier League and its broadcast partners. I agree that it is time to re-fresh it soon, and I’m sure that will happen in the summer ahead of our 10th anniversary season at the Amex."

Many supporters feel the stewarding is a bit rough and could loosen up a little
Barber: "our stewarding isn’t “harsh” at all. In fact, it is rated as amongst the very best in the Premier League. We will not tolerate any kind of abusive or discriminatory behaviour - and I’m afraid that won’t change. With a very tiny percentage of our fans represented on social media, it’s very mis-leading indeed to use it to judge our stewarding or anything else about the club. I suspect your opinion will be very different after visiting."

Some supporters feel a bit worried about expressing their enthusiasm to the fullest while at the AMEX
Barber:"in excess of 27,000 Brighton fans at the Amex for each home game have plenty of opportunity and freedom to generate a great atmosphere at the stadium, as they have done on many occasions since we opened in 2011. Sometimes that atmosphere comes from the team’s performance, other times it is the atmosphere generated by the fans that inspires the team’s performance. It is always a 2-way street".

The aforementioned sometimes occuring perceptions doesnt matter much now now but if the football side to it starts failing, there could be friction between the club and its fans if stewarding etc. remains harsh, and the risk of a future possible "anti-fan" image could damage the club
Barber: "having won “best fan experience” in the Premier League for each of our first two seasons playing at this level, we are a very long way from a reputation as an “anti-fan club” – to be frank, I have never heard such rubbish! The true “vast majority” of fans are, according to fan surveys – which are completed by many thousands of fans each season and after each home match – are very happy with the club’s stewarding."

Some people - actually maybe only me - feel that while you are a great communicator, occurances of language like "we are proud to treat our fans as customers" is a bit alienating - it is as if your church or your wife would call you "a customer" rather than a believer or husband.
Barber: thank you for your feedback on communication. I’m afraid it’s impossible to please everyone all the time in this job! The vast majority of our fans want to be recognised as “fans” and treated as “customers”. That is how our staff are expected to think - and act. We are a growing football club, a developing business, and a significant community asset. We therefore communicate with multiple stakeholders all the time.

Great to see him reply, I'm guessing that in about 19 of the other PL clubs it would be pretty hard to get any type of thought through answer, especially not after just a few hours.
 


























CheeseRolls

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 27, 2009
6,229
Shoreham Beach
CheeseRolls "Vs." Swansmen

This is really odd behavior

I think, but I don't know, just my assumption really, that I speak for many of our fans, we really don't want you to summarise and represent the views of supporters to the Chief Exec

Please stop

Many Thanks
Cheese Rolls
 




Grombleton

Surrounded by <div>s
Dec 31, 2011
7,356
Many supporters feel the stewarding is a bit rough and could loosen up a little

Literally the first time i've heard that.

You also forgot your question from the Fans Forum, as to why we haven't bought our own Train yet.


Is this just [MENTION=3385]crodonilson[/MENTION]'s second account?
 




Hotchilidog

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2009
9,119
A very unimpressive set of questions. Starting with Ring of Fire which actually came from the fans singing it when Nathan Jones was briefly in charge. In the WSU the stewards are excellent, no idea where the charge of roughness comes from. As for the third charge, what? Utterly ridiculous. Friction between club and fans? Again what? No complaints from this fan. As for the final question, sheesh, do you really have nothing better to do with your time?

Barber proving that he has the patience of saint in actually bothering to reply at all.
 






Wardy's twin

Well-known member
Oct 21, 2014
8,862
The only comment that I can see which has any real resonance is about customers but the reality is welcome to the PL and even then not sure this is true of the chairman who really sets the tone.
 


timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,503
Sussex
A very unimpressive set of questions. Starting with Ring of Fire which actually came from the fans singing it when Nathan Jones was briefly in charge. In the WSU the stewards are excellent, no idea where the charge of roughness comes from. As for the third charge, what? Utterly ridiculous. Friction between club and fans? Again what? No complaints from this fan. As for the final question, sheesh, do you really have nothing better to do with your time?

Barber proving that he has the patience of saint in actually bothering to reply at all.

think there is a subtle ( F off) message in PB’s responses
 


AmexRuislip

Retired Spy 🕵️‍♂️
Feb 2, 2014
34,733
Ruislip
Someone said that Paul Barber generally replies to emails, so I sent him a wall of text that I won't post here as a few here would be offended.

I explained I'm an outsider who has never visited Brighton and thanked him and the club for the good job they're (seemingly) doing, and then I brought up some "commonly mentioned issues" that I've noticed around here. I am a curious person and wanted to try how easy it is to communicate with the club.

Few hours later - response from Barber! I dont know if this is interesting or if theres any perspectives from Barber that could be considered new or unexpected, but here it is - a summarizedversion of my "suggestions" and the responses from Barber.

Many supporters feel that "Ring of Fire" is perhaps not the best pre-match music
Barber: "we review our match day build-up and music choices before every season. It doesn’t just have to work for fans in the stadium, it has to work with our players and coaches’ requirements too, and also fit with strict timings determined by the Premier League and its broadcast partners. I agree that it is time to re-fresh it soon, and I’m sure that will happen in the summer ahead of our 10th anniversary season at the Amex."

Many supporters feel the stewarding is a bit rough and could loosen up a little
Barber: "our stewarding isn’t “harsh” at all. In fact, it is rated as amongst the very best in the Premier League. We will not tolerate any kind of abusive or discriminatory behaviour - and I’m afraid that won’t change. With a very tiny percentage of our fans represented on social media, it’s very mis-leading indeed to use it to judge our stewarding or anything else about the club. I suspect your opinion will be very different after visiting."

Some supporters feel a bit worried about expressing their enthusiasm to the fullest while at the AMEX
Barber:"in excess of 27,000 Brighton fans at the Amex for each home game have plenty of opportunity and freedom to generate a great atmosphere at the stadium, as they have done on many occasions since we opened in 2011. Sometimes that atmosphere comes from the team’s performance, other times it is the atmosphere generated by the fans that inspires the team’s performance. It is always a 2-way street".

The aforementioned sometimes occuring perceptions doesnt matter much now now but if the football side to it starts failing, there could be friction between the club and its fans if stewarding etc. remains harsh, and the risk of a future possible "anti-fan" image could damage the club
Barber: "having won “best fan experience” in the Premier League for each of our first two seasons playing at this level, we are a very long way from a reputation as an “anti-fan club” – to be frank, I have never heard such rubbish! The true “vast majority” of fans are, according to fan surveys – which are completed by many thousands of fans each season and after each home match – are very happy with the club’s stewarding."

Some people - actually maybe only me - feel that while you are a great communicator, occurances of language like "we are proud to treat our fans as customers" is a bit alienating - it is as if your church or your wife would call you "a customer" rather than a believer or husband.
Barber: thank you for your feedback on communication. I’m afraid it’s impossible to please everyone all the time in this job! The vast majority of our fans want to be recognised as “fans” and treated as “customers”. That is how our staff are expected to think - and act. We are a growing football club, a developing business, and a significant community asset. We therefore communicate with multiple stakeholders all the time.

Great to see him reply, I'm guessing that in about 19 of the other PL clubs it would be pretty hard to get any type of thought through answer, especially not after just a few hours.

Never mind what the others say, i think this caps it off nicely :thumbsup:
 




Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
We should all be ashamed of ourselves.

All these years we've silently sat by a let OUR club be run into the ground.

I'm so glad Swanman has taken it upon himself to step up and ask the questions on behalf of all of us.
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,863
A very unimpressive set of questions. Starting with Ring of Fire which actually came from the fans singing it when Nathan Jones was briefly in charge. In the WSU the stewards are excellent, no idea where the charge of roughness comes from. As for the third charge, what? Utterly ridiculous. Friction between club and fans? Again what? No complaints from this fan. As for the final question, sheesh, do you really have nothing better to do with your time?

Barber proving that he has the patience of saint in actually bothering to reply at all.

Agreed. We've all moaned about him and the some of the stupid rulings (flaskgate and bottlecapgate for example), but in this instance I'm #teambarber.
 


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