[Albion] Supporters attitude towards players leaving…

[Johnny RoastBeef]

It seems the club will not stand in the way of a player if the chance of playing at a higher level becomes apparent. As long as we are compensated accordingly.

I can see a change in this accommodating stance if and when we are in a position to offer European football.

It then becomes harder for players agents to argue that we are holding back their client, if it is blatant that their sole motivation is financial.

Fingers crossed we can get top 6 this season.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I think the definition of "gradually improve" is the piece some people struggle with.
They see Mac, Caciedo and Mitoma and say, good luck with that.

The improvement isn't going to be always finding better, it will be in having more depth to the squad.
To do that we have to increase revenue/qualify for Europe.
You simply can't keep a deep squad of quality players without offering them plenty of football and wages.

Step 1 is to generate enough revenue (from sales) to get a team good enough to qualify for Europe
Step 2 is to increase the pay structure to keep emerging talent for longer
Step 3 is to strengthen the overall squad

I agree that this may be our golden generation as a first 11 and probably represents are best chance of qualifying for Europe.
However the sales of those stars ,may enable us to keep the next generation at the club for long enough to mount a sustained challenge at the top end of the table.

Who knows.

And this is where TB and his team have cocked up badly. It's supposed to be gradual, incremental improvement and then they went and got Big Bob, AliMac, Caicedo, Ferguson, Mitoma and RDZ. I don't know what they think they're playing at

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

And this is where TB and his team have cocked up badly. It's supposed to be gradual, incremental improvement and then they went and got Big Bob, AliMac, Caicedo, Ferguson, Mitoma and RDZ. I don't know what they think they're playing at

Barber OBE OUT!

 

[Springal]

It seems the club will not stand in the way of a player if the chance of playing at a higher level becomes apparent. As long as we are compensated accordingly.

I can see a change in this accommodating stance if and when we are in a position to offer European football.

It then becomes harder for players agents to argue that we are holding back their client, if it is blatant that their sole motivation is financial.

Fingers crossed we can get top 6 this season.

The problem is, I can’t imagine Europa League Conference or maybe even Europa league is enough - players will want championships league or a team pushing for the PL. And like you say wages…

Maybe I am being naive but there’s only so many clubs that can meet our valuations unless players are less than 2 years on contract. And they can’t just keep buying our players every window… right?

 

[Justice]

Agreed , but it would be nice to see us say NO once in a while . Potter came in with a low ball £55m knowing we were asking £75m for Moises , just to get into the lads head , a simple F*** off potter it`s £120m to you and don`t call again would do it . After all Arsenal did it last year and had no problem with being hastled .

TBF we don’t know if there has been a genuine approach or it’s a case of social media wishful thinking.

 

[trueblue]

I would like to think that our successful methods in the recruiting and developing of raw, young talent is being taken on board by the so-called big clubs. That way their lazy, splash the cash, disruptive approach to obtaining players from clubs like us is curtailed.

I, with many other Brighton fans, am hacked off with certain outfits (Chelsea?) who decide that they can cherry pick your best players on a whim. Apart from Ben White at Arsenal, who’s transfer was conducted ‘properly’, the players that have moved on have had a hard time of it. Perhaps the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

Surely the problem with the rich clubs getting their act together is it could eat into the pool of young prospects we’re chasing. The new striker at Chelsea was widely reported as being on our radar, for instance. At least currently we get the rewards for being run properly in the form of huge transfer fees, annoying as that is. Hopefully, the shrewder players and agents will see Albion as a more realistic pathway to long term success than sitting on the bench, at best, as part of a ridiculously bloated squad. I’m not that hopeful though. As well as the financial upside, many will feel that if they don’t break through with a big 6 team, they’ll still end up joining a club at a decent level. If they join Albion and flounder, it’s a bigger fall. Given then that we’re always likely to lose out in a straight transfer fight with any of the teams that have all the financial advantages, I think it’s better they continue to spend big. It’s the only way to get funds redistributed from their cosy little clique.

 

[El Presidente]

We need to sign more Locadias and Ali J’s to stop people worrying about having players poached by wealthier teams.

#BloomOut
#BarberOut
#SackTheBoard

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Surely the problem with the rich clubs getting their act together is it could eat into the pool of young prospects we’re chasing. The new striker at Chelsea was widely reported as being on our radar, for instance. At least currently we get the rewards for being run properly in the form of huge transfer fees, annoying as that is. Hopefully, the shrewder players and agents will see Albion as a more realistic pathway to long term success than sitting on the bench, at best, as part of a ridiculously bloated squad. I’m not that hopeful though. As well as the financial upside, many will feel that if they don’t break through with a big 6 team, they’ll still end up joining a club at a decent level. If they join Albion and flounder, it’s a bigger fall. Given then that we’re always likely to lose out in a straight transfer fight with any of the teams that have all the financial advantages, I think it’s better they continue to spend big. It’s the only way to get funds redistributed from their cosy little clique.

Does the fact that a young prospect chooses to go to Chelsea, who have an odd reputation for farming talent without playing them, indicate that the prospect was missing that hunger that we are looking for?

Both Ferguson and Caceido were courted by huge clubs but opted to come to us instead.

 

[Justice]

Surely the problem with the rich clubs getting their act together is it could eat into the pool of young prospects we’re chasing. The new striker at Chelsea was widely reported as being on our radar, for instance. At least currently we get the rewards for being run properly in the form of huge transfer fees, annoying as that is. Hopefully, the shrewder players and agents will see Albion as a more realistic pathway to long term success than sitting on the bench, at best, as part of a ridiculously bloated squad. I’m not that hopeful though. As well as the financial upside, many will feel that if they don’t break through with a big 6 team, they’ll still end up joining a club at a decent level. If they join Albion and flounder, it’s a bigger fall. Given then that we’re always likely to lose out in a straight transfer fight with any of the teams that have all the financial advantages, I think it’s better they continue to spend big. It’s the only way to get funds redistributed from their cosy little clique.

We need to sign more Locadias and Ali J’s to stop people worrying about having players poached by wealthier teams.

#BloomOut
#BarberOut
#SackTheBoard

Chris O’grady Chris O’grady

 

[Bold Seagull]

Does the fact that a young prospect chooses to go to Chelsea, who have an odd reputation for farming talent without playing them, indicate that the prospect was missing that hunger that we are looking for?

Both Ferguson and Caceido were courted by huge clubs but opted to come to us instead.

Wasn't the case with Caceido that the transfer was so complicated in regard to clearances etc. we ended up being the only club prepared to do the various paperwork requirements, and knowing a bit of patience was needed - same with MacA? Again with Ferguson, not sure how serious Liverpool's interest was, we however made it clear I think that he had a definite route to the first team. I'm not sure whether any of those had concrete offers on the table and chose us over those offers. I might be wrong, but that's how I kind of saw it.

 

[Horses Arse]

All playes leave, always. They won't all go at once and it is a mark of the club that our goal keepers, defenders, midfielders and attackers (well, fergie anyway) are all wanted by top 6 clubs

 

[Justice]

Surely the problem with the rich clubs getting their act together is it could eat into the pool of young prospects we’re chasing. The new striker at Chelsea was widely reported as being on our radar, for instance. At least currently we get the rewards for being run properly in the form of huge transfer fees, annoying as that is. Hopefully, the shrewder players and agents will see Albion as a more realistic pathway to long term success than sitting on the bench, at best, as part of a ridiculously bloated squad. I’m not that hopeful though. As well as the financial upside, many will feel that if they don’t break through with a big 6 team, they’ll still end up joining a club at a decent level. If they join Albion and flounder, it’s a bigger fall. Given then that we’re always likely to lose out in a straight transfer fight with any of the teams that have all the financial advantages, I think it’s better they continue to spend big. It’s the only way to get funds redistributed from their cosy little clique.

Forfana must of been a Winstanley find, It will be interesting to see how we do without Winstanley and his contact book, maybe Chelsea have recruited our scouts that wouldn’t exactly be difficult as he would of known them all.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Wasn't the case with Caceido that the transfer was so complicated in regard to clearances etc. we ended up being the only club prepared to do the various paperwork requirements, and knowing a bit of patience was needed - same with MacA? Again with Ferguson, not sure how serious Liverpool's interest was, we however made it clear I think that he had a definite route to the first team. I'm not sure whether any of those had concrete offers on the table and chose us over those offers. I might be wrong, but that's how I kind of saw it.

You may be correct, who knows? But both Lamptey and Gilmour left Chelsea for us, so there is an argument that we can still offer something to young ambitious prospects.

 

[trueblue]

Wasn't the case with Caceido that the transfer was so complicated in regard to clearances etc. we ended up being the only club prepared to do the various paperwork requirements, and knowing a bit of patience was needed - same with MacA? Again with Ferguson, not sure how serious Liverpool's interest was, we however made it clear I think that he had a definite route to the first team. I'm not sure whether any of those had concrete offers on the table and chose us over those offers. I might be wrong, but that's how I kind of saw it.

My guess would be similar. That there’s a difference between being linked to a rich club (which is possibly coming from the agent anyway) and having 2 actual contract offers. Fair play to anyone with the foresight though to choose us ahead of the allure of playing for a club with Liverpool’s history, if that’s what did happen.

 

[el punal]

We need to sign more Locadias and Ali J’s to stop people worrying about having players poached by wealthier teams.

#BloomOut
#BarberOut
#SackTheBoard

Have you spent the weekend with a bunch of Everton fans?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Wasn't the case with Caceido that the transfer was so complicated in regard to clearances etc. we ended up being the only club prepared to do the various paperwork requirements, and knowing a bit of patience was needed - same with MacA? Again with Ferguson, not sure how serious Liverpool's interest was, we however made it clear I think that he had a definite route to the first team. I'm not sure whether any of those had concrete offers on the table and chose us over those offers. I might be wrong, but that's how I kind of saw it.

That's part of the problem. I look at those 6 clubs like a pack of hyenas, circling around when we have actually gone in for the kill, and they just want to nick it, when we've done all the hard work.

 

[Springal]

Does the fact that a young prospect chooses to go to Chelsea, who have an odd reputation for farming talent without playing them, indicate that the prospect was missing that hunger that we are looking for?

Both Ferguson and Caceido were courted by huge clubs but opted to come to us instead.

Caicedo at least Man Utd walked away because there appeared to be 3 or 4 agencies claiming to represent him so they felt it became a difficult deal to do

 

[Uh_huh_him]

It seems the club will not stand in the way of a player if the chance of playing at a higher level becomes apparent. As long as we are compensated accordingly.

I can see a change in this accommodating stance if and when we are in a position to offer European football.

It then becomes harder for players agents to argue that we are holding back their client, if it is blatant that their sole motivation is financial.

Fingers crossed we can get top 6 this season.

But if we can't compete on salary, then we are still holding the player back.

File this under "cross that bridge when we come to it" I guess.

 

[HalfaSeatOn]

As long as we sell big to ‘the big 6’ and not the others , can’t see the problem. It’s great being ahead of some and on the tails of the big 6 but to mix it up with them on an on going basis? Really? There’s 2 leagues in the EPL. If we can sustain competing to lead EPL B that would be some achievement and pounce on the cups (bloody Charlton)

 

[trueblue]

Forfana must of been a Winstanley find, It will be interesting to see how we do without Winstanley and his contact book, maybe Chelsea have recruited our scouts that wouldn’t exactly be difficult as he would of known them all.

I think the club line on that was that Winstanley only knows about the targets he’d been told to pursue. Our data analysis and scouting goes much deeper. I took it to mean that there’s a crossover with the owner’s expertise in the field and so, unless they buy Tony Bloom, it shouldn’t have a long term effect. Winstanley was running around Europe last week ‘persuading’ Mudryk to join Chelsea instead of Arsenal. How difficult must that be? “Do you find this obscene amount of money and ludicrously long contract persuasive?’ Hopefully he’s too busy pursuing Boehly’s flights of fancy to do any proper scouting.