[Albion] Supporters attitude towards players leaving…

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Until you get a run of toys that turn out shite! It's great at the moment because we're on a recruitment roll

Would be quite nice now if we were to actually put an embargo on buying and selling in this transfer window. Just to see how far the current group of players can take us in the next few months. Strongly suspect they will take us quite a lot further than many of us dared to dream

 

[Springal]

We then potentially need to ask a far more controversial question. Would we welcome the injection of cash from another party? Would we put aside our reservations about who they were like Newcastle fans have clearly done? Would we be more receptive if Tony still had a significant degree of control? The reality is that we're never going to have an owner so financially and emotionally invested in our club.

Maybe Bloom has some business associates from his relationships in Panama that could invest ;-)

 

[Mustafa II]

We are better than ever.

We are bigger than ever.

There will always be bigger and better teams.

However we are approaching a time where some of the worlds best players genuinely want to play for us.

If we continue our trajectory, then a time will come where we can and will keep our best players.

I think we're nearly there already.

 

[The Clamp]

We are better than ever.

We are bigger than ever.

There will always be bigger and better teams.

However we are approaching a time where some of the worlds best players genuinely want to play for us.

If we continue our trajectory, then a time will come where we can and will keep our best players.

I think we're nearly there already.

Spot on

 

[BadFish]

We are better than ever.

We are bigger than ever.

There will always be bigger and better teams.

However we are approaching a time where some of the worlds best players genuinely want to play for us.

If we continue our trajectory, then a time will come where we can and will keep our best players.

I think we're nearly there already.

It all gets harder and harder, what a ride!


Either way I am going to enjoy it.

Amazing times.

 

[Rambo]

Maybe Bloom has some business associates from his relationships in Panama that could invest ;-)

When you are good friends with one of the richest families in the world I am not sure he needs other relationships.

He has access to plenty of money.

 

[trueblue]

It will be interesting though in future seasons how they get on with FFP as I agree they are playing the 'game' by spreading the cost of purchases over a few years to get around this, but it does mean that they have effectively already spent large sums that will need to be declared over the next few seasons. Will that reduce their ability to spend so much next summer, or the summer after that? They will have already spent large sums in the '3 year FFP window' effectively in advance.

It's a bit like taking out 'hire purchase' to get that item for your home you just can't wait for or save for.

I await with interest what happens in the future, as I can't help think that sooner or later someone like Chelsea will come a cropper by pushing their luck just a bit too far.

It’s also interesting to see how it pans out if some of these players signed on massive wages on ludicrously long contracts turn out to be as bad as some of their previous big money purchases. Moving them on could be a massive issue.

 

[Weststander]

Cut out all “worrying”.

Just enjoy.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

When you are good friends with one of the richest families in the world I am not sure he needs other relationships.

He has access to plenty of money.

Which family?

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

I'm waiting for the inevitable moans at Chelsea when they have to name their 25-man squad for the knockout phase of the Champions League. At their present rate of player acquisition, about half their players will have to be left out.

 

[Stato]

These are the good times. There will be bad times. The wage cap that will help protect us during the bad times will hold us back during the good times. Still Priority One is to ensure that football can be watched at Brighton for generations to come. I'm not saying that we should limit our ambitions because of the 'need for a history lesson', but I am saying that we are owned by someone who will not bet the future on a long shot.

Leeds in the early 2000s thought that they could make Europe and realise an endless income stream. They were wrong. Everton and Leicester thought that they could compete on an even playing field with the bottomless pit of stupid money being spent by multi billionaires and oil rich nation states. Obviously they couldn't and they're now struggling because of FFP trouble. With this ownership, we have a chance to compete for a European spot or to win a cup, something that would put us in the history books, but the hard fact for those of us who would so love to live that dream is that if it doesn't happen doing things our way, it won't happen.

Bloom will not be betting the farm, so we will always be vulnerable to losing employees to organisations who will, or who perceive themselves, perhaps correctly, as already being too big to fail. In some ways, this is necessary. Our business model kind of relies on their laziness, greed and profligacy.

 

[Auckland seagull]

These are the good times. There will be bad times. The wage cap that will help protect us during the bad times will hold us back during the good times. Still Priority One is to ensure that football can be watched at Brighton for generations to come. I'm not saying that we should limit our ambitions because of the 'need for a history lesson', but I am saying that we are owned by someone who will not bet the future on a long shot.

Leeds in the early 2000s thought that they could make Europe and realise an endless income stream. They were wrong. Everton and Leicester thought that they could compete on an even playing field with the bottomless pit of stupid money being spent by multi billionaires and oil rich nation states. Obviously they couldn't and they're now struggling because of FFP trouble. With this ownership, we have a chance to compete for a European spot or to win a cup, something that would put us in the history books, but the hard fact for those of us who would so love to live that dream is that if it doesn't happen doing things our way, it won't happen.

Bloom will not be betting the farm, so we will always be vulnerable to losing employees to organisations who will, or who perceive themselves, perhaps correctly, as already being too big to fail. In some ways, this is necessary. Our business model kind of relies on their laziness, greed and profligacy.

Exactly this. Frustrating though it is, our financial business model ensures the long term future. As we continue to build the brand things may change, but it has to be slowly, slowly, one step at a time.

 

[tigertim68]

I just wish the club would just say occasionally he is not for sale to the big 6 , rather than rolling over all the time , despite what they offer

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

I just wish the club would just say occasionally he is not for sale to the big 6 , rather than rolling over all the time , despite what they offer

We do. It's just not reported.

 

[BadFish]

I just wish the club would just say occasionally he is not for sale to the big 6 , rather than rolling over all the time , despite what they offer

The club sell itself to the players with the promise that they will have a good chance of getting first team minutes and that they will be allowed to move on when big clubs come knocking.

Evan Ferguson chose us over Liverpool presumably because of this promise. If we break it then other players will be less likely to choose us and our model breaks down.

The model is working well for us at the moment and I would rather than decisions were made to keep it working.

 

[Swansman]

Well it is what it is. Unpreventable and really nothing that indicates it will change unless football finances are regulated in a way that evens out the playing field.

Improved finances and results should make it easier to keep player for a longer time but ultimately we'll see good quality go out in nearly every transfer window and will just have to hope that academy and signing promising youngsters could keep the general level at a good level (though we probably can not expect the team to be in top 10 every single year).

While big sales could help push the wage level to be somewhat more competitive, I don't think we'll see a huge change in that regard... it is quite simply too dangerous. Watford is a decent example: a couple of years ago when things were going good for them, they started to spend a lot more money on wages and then shit happened and they went down... and now they're still suffering from a few years of overspending, meaning they have to be very tight with money now and also have unknown levels of debt that whoever takes over from Pozzo will have a nightmare to deal with.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Agreed , but it would be nice to see us say NO once in a while . Potter came in with a low ball £55m knowing we were asking £75m for Moises , just to get into the lads head , a simple F*** off potter it`s £120m to you and don`t call again would do it . After all Arsenal did it last year and had no problem with being hastled .

We have. But without gobbing off to the media about it.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I believe the plan is to gradually improve, season upon season, allowing us to keep more really good players a bit longer by paying them a bit more and gradually improve the level at which we recruit, a bit like we have been doing for the last 10 years.

Sounds like a reasonable plan to me

I think the definition of "gradually improve" is the piece some people struggle with.
They see Mac, Caciedo and Mitoma and say, good luck with that.

The improvement isn't going to be always finding better, it will be in having more depth to the squad.
To do that we have to increase revenue/qualify for Europe.
You simply can't keep a deep squad of quality players without offering them plenty of football and wages.

Step 1 is to generate enough revenue (from sales) to get a team good enough to qualify for Europe
Step 2 is to increase the pay structure to keep emerging talent for longer
Step 3 is to strengthen the overall squad

I agree that this may be our golden generation as a first 11 and probably represents are best chance of qualifying for Europe.
However the sales of those stars ,may enable us to keep the next generation at the club for long enough to mount a sustained challenge at the top end of the table.

Who knows.

 

[Stat Brother]

The club sell itself to the players with the promise that they will have a good chance of getting first team minutes and that they will be allowed to move on when big clubs come knocking.

Evan Ferguson chose us over Liverpool presumably because of this promise. If we break it then other players will be less likely to choose us and our model breaks down.

The model is working well for us at the moment and I would rather than decisions were made to keep it working.

It ain't rocket science - and yet here we are.

 

[el punal]

These are the best of days. Players clearly living and loving their Albion life. They'll all move on when the time is right for them, for money, and they'll be increasingly difficult to upgrade. Improve on what Mitoma gives us? Hard to imagine. A better raw prospect than Ferguson? Will need to be something truly special. Etc etc all the way through much of the team. Does seem very much like our very own Golden Generation. But TB keeps pulling rabbits out the hat. Probably has to keep pinching himself at the moment. Astounding stuff!

I would like to think that our successful methods in the recruiting and developing of raw, young talent is being taken on board by the so-called big clubs. That way their lazy, splash the cash, disruptive approach to obtaining players from clubs like us is curtailed.

I, with many other Brighton fans, am hacked off with certain outfits (Chelsea?) who decide that they can cherry pick your best players on a whim. Apart from Ben White at Arsenal, who’s transfer was conducted ‘properly’, the players that have moved on have had a hard time of it. Perhaps the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.