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Support for the Public sector workers?

Where do you stand?

  • I work in the PRIVATE sector and SUPPORT the walk out

    Votes: 27 26.7%
  • I work in the PRIVATE sector and DON'T SUPPORT the walk out

    Votes: 42 41.6%
  • I work in the PUBLIC sector and SUPPORT the walk out

    Votes: 21 20.8%
  • I work in the PUBLIC sector and DON'T SUPPORT the walk out

    Votes: 5 5.0%
  • What walk out?

    Votes: 6 5.9%

  • Total voters
    101






Yoda

English & European
Is that Public Centre as in LA's? ???

Just remember the public centre is a broad area that includes emergency services and civil servants (like me:blush: )
 


Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,199
I instinctively support any sort of collective action in the interests of the many against the few...

Pension ages rising is inevitable but there should still be protest and recognition of worsening conditions...
 


Lammy

Registered Abuser
Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
I have to say it's looking pretty clear cut so far...
 






bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
I can see their point but on the other hand they don't tend to have high presure jobs. Against that though is the fact that its a dirty job and someone has to do it. If I'd paid into a pension fund I'd be peeved if Tony Blair and his buddies tried to screw me over.

Trouble is, middle England who have jobs and cars can take their own rubbish to the tip at a pinch, what do they care ?
 


Superseagull

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
2,123
They are trying to force a different deal onto the poorer paid and weaker supported public workers whilst the teachers, doctors, police, firemen, etc are allowed to retain their exisiting pension rights. Why don't they try and change the pensions for ALL public sector workers?
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,226
On NSC for over two decades...
Superseagull said:
They are trying to force a different deal onto the poorer paid and weaker supported public workers whilst the teachers, doctors, police, firemen, etc are allowed to retain their exisiting pension rights. Why don't they try and change the pensions for ALL public sector workers?

Which would be the right thing to do. It seems to me that all that needs to happen is that the rule change is only applied to new members of the scheme.
 




looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Why should public sector wrokers have out of date and over generous pensions schemes funded by the private sector? Especially when its thepublic sector thats riddled with incompetance.


These schemes were set up when life expectacy was lower and birthrates were higher. They should have been ended for all public sector workers and will be when the tories get back in soon.

I instinctively support any sort of collective action in the interests of the many against the few...

public sector workers are the few.
 


Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,785
GOSBTS
the reason pensions are shit is because everyone is retiring EARLY...

I agree for existing workers, their employment contract should be honoured, but new workers to council, should have to work longer.

Age of life has got longer, yet the retirement age has either stayed the same, or dropped to 60 or whatever in the public sector. Doesn't make sense to me!
 


Dandyman

In London village.
looney said:
Why should public sector wrokers have out of date and over generous pensions schemes funded by the private sector? Especially when its thepublic sector thats riddled with incompetance.


These schemes were set up when life expectacy was lower and birthrates were higher. They should have been ended for all public sector workers and will be when the tories get back in soon.

I instinctively support any sort of collective action in the interests of the many against the few...

public sector workers are the few.

For the same reason we have to fund your care in the community.
 






Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,761
at home
bhaexpress said:
I can see their point but on the other hand they don't tend to have high presure jobs.








:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


".karen, come and read this joker....."
 


Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,199
looney said:
These schemes were set up when life expectancy was lower and birthrates were higher.
agreed... it has been obvious they will need serious reshaping for many years now - if your beloved tories are so astute why didn't they set something in motion when they were in power for all those glorious years?
 




London Calling said:
47% support walk out - pretty balanced

Clear majority now.

Private sector solidarity here :clap:
 


If you look at the size of local authorities and also health authorities, you would soon realise that if they were floated on the stock market, they would comprise some of the UK biggest companies.

Hackney my local council has a budget of £700m and employs 8,000 staff.

No pressures. Bollocks.

Kent CC, Birmingham are even bigger.

People deliver services in the public services that can AND DO mean life or death!

Not just making a few extra quid. That's not pressure that's playing AT A JOB.

LC
 
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dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
But why should I pay higher council tax, so some people with cushy jobs can retire earlier than me?
 


e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
Pensions are a time bomb. People are living older and the age needs to go up across the board, though I do have sympathy that they seem to be picked on first.

My left wing credentials are gone forever.
 






Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
Why the hell should public sector workers retire 5 years before I will have to just becasue they work for the government and have a cushy job for life. f*** Em I say!
 


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