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TSB

Captain Hindsight
Jul 7, 2003
17,666
Lansdowne Place, Hove
Right, well Super Tuesday is upon us and in the States, two MASSIVE battles are going on. Now, i realise that not many posters were born in or are located in the states, but i'm guessing that most people care about who becomes their next president!

So, my question to you, good people of NSC, is who would you like to see triumph today/tomorrow and in the following primaries (if required)?

I'll say Obama for the Crats, because i can stand to see Hilary's smile any longer and because I'd like to see real-life imitate 24 in this respect.

For the Publicans, I'll say Mitt Romney. as he surely has the most ludicrously un-presidential name!

I'm not aiming for the Right v Left political binfest that NSC usually provides, but who knows!

If you don't care, don't post. Can't say fairer than that.

Ta ta.
 




Djmiles

Barndoor Holroyd
Dec 1, 2005
12,064
Kitchener, Canada
I don't care who gets elected, none of them can be any worse than Bush.
 


Frutos

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May 3, 2006
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From what I understand, whoever gets the Democrat nod is likely to be a fairly comfortable favourite to win it all, and from what I've read and heard from him, I'd like that to be Obama.

I know very few (if any) politicians are what they appear to be, but he seems to have a genuine desire to change things for the better (from my POV). Also, Clinton just has the kind of face you want to slap, with that stupid Cheir Blair grin constantly plastered across it.

For the others, it'll more than likely end up being McCain, but I suspect whichever of them it is will only really be making up the numbers.
 


Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
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Obama because his step mother lives not far from us and is apparently a very lovely lady. Not much of a reason I know, but still! Obviously, I am not American but I would have liked to have seen Edwards get further than he did. I really liked what I read/knew of him. I am scared of Ann Coulter and she has threatened to campaign for Clinton so I rolled my eyes and hope the two of them will disappear.

As for the Republicans I like McCain the best but that isn't saying much. I think they'll be in the White House next year by default. Though I hope I am wrong.
 


Frutos

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As for the Republicans I like McCain the best but that isn't saying much. I think they'll be in the White House next year by default. Though I hope I am wrong.

What makes you say that? A lot of what I've read seems to suggest that the Democrats, if anybody, will end up there by default.
 




Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
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I am not just not convinced that they will go for the woman/black (even though he isn't) president. I am not usually right about these things so hopefully that bodes well.
 


Frutos

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I am not just not convinced that they will go for the woman/black (even though he isn't) president. I am not usually right about these things so hopefully that bodes well.

Ah right, see what you mean now.

Talking to some Americans I know (not exactly a comphrehensive survey, obviously), there seems to be a good amount of support fro "anyone who isn't going to be the same as Bush", regardless of race or gender, which will obviously favour the Democrats if accurate.

McCain, I suspect, will go for the "I'll do all the same stuff as Bush has done/wanted to, but I'll do it better" approach, and I'm not sure that will do him many favours.
 


TSB

Captain Hindsight
Jul 7, 2003
17,666
Lansdowne Place, Hove
McCain, I suspect, will go for the "I'll do all the same stuff as Bush has done/wanted to, but I'll do it better" approach, and I'm not sure that will do him many favours.

He seems to have a dramatically different climate/foreign policy.
 




Frutos

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He seems to have a dramatically different climate/foreign policy.

I think the main stumbling block for him is Iraq, though. A lot of Americans seem to see it as a war that can't be won, and so want their troops out,home and safe, whereas McCain is saying things like the US will never surrender to terrorists and that leaving Iraq would be seen as a defeat for America, which he would not allow to happen.

That'll go down with the patriotic ex-military voters, but not, I think, with the general population this time around.
 








acrossthepond

Active member
Jan 30, 2006
1,233
Ruritania
Bush really is a terrible president, but John Kerry did not manage to get elected by virtue of being 'not-Bush' in 2004.

I think McCain is the best candidate that the Republicans have, and that they will elect him as their candidate to contest the election. I also think that means bad news for the Democrats, as he is by far and away the most electable of the red candidates, and he will be very tough to beat in November.

In head to head polls he almost always polls higher than Obama or Clinton, and is far more trusted than either of them seem to be. He stands on his principles, and that counts for a lot over here. To many democrat-leaning voters, he is the acceptable face of the Republican party.

Neither Clinton nor Obama are particularly convincing, and both will need a strong potential VP on the ticket to beat McCain. Neither of them are particulalry enticing to people of Republican tendencies.

It's amazing that the Democrats have given themselves a choice between their first black candidate, and their first woman candidate. In terms of a choice, I'd prefer to see Obama up against McCain, if only because I am so sick of the Clinton/Bush dynasties.

George W has a brother with presidential aspirations too - watch this space in 2012/16
:shootself
 
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Robbie G

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Jul 26, 2004
1,771
Hassocks
Hopefully Hilary Clinton won't be elected as Democrat leader; all she seems to do is point into the crowds pretending she knows people!
 


Frutos

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George W has another brother with presidential aspirations too - watch this space in 2012/16
:shootself

:thud:

I did hear that McCain is disliked by a lot of Republicans due to his willingness to do deal with Democrats on Senate votes, which may help his cause as something of a consensus candidate.
 




Leekbrookgull

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Jul 14, 2005
16,386
Leek
From what i have seen of the two,not alot inspires me. Will be interesting to see what John Edwards does next ? I thought he had a real chance,however it seems not enough money. Having said that,would he team up with Barack as opposed to Clinton ? :wave:
 






Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
May i ask why?

Good policies, well educated, human rights lawyer, that wouldn't cope with half the crap that Bush has tried to sweep under the carpet - eg Abu Ghraib. He also seems more dependable than the other applicants.

And I don't like Clinton, she's another smarmy politician, who is a mug enough to stick with her husband.
 








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