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Stupid drivers
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BensGrandad
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Thank you, not hugging the roundabout and then indicate and swing left. Unfortunately it happens a lot there so I am partially aware of it If he was going to Caxton Way do you think it was correct as that is not a right turn completely.
Another problem with that roundabout is people going around it whilst on the phone. it must happen 50 times a day and I dont have my phone ready or I would photograph it. But I am sure old bill have much more to do than worry about that.
- Jul 7, 2003
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Could have only realised at the last second that was his turn I guess. It's not the worst thing in the world, is it?
Chin up...
BensGrandad
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Not really just annoyed me at the time as I usually have one of my grandchildren that want to walk down the town with me. Best left now.
- Jul 7, 2003
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Quite, Let he who is without sin & all that...
Mr Bronson
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- Feb 24, 2009
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Definitely not local if they used their indicators. The other way to tell whether they're local to mid Sussex is whether they vary their speed above 40 mph irrespective of the speed limit.
BensGrandad
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The problem is that you are in a no win situation if you put an officer on the roundabout filming all traffic movement it would be a waste of resources if somebody got knocked over and died you should have been watching it.
GoldWithFalmer
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A vehicle is live irrespective of a signal whilst on the roundabout,to be sure its safe to cross it's best to pay no attention (as a pedestrian) to any signal a vehicle may or may not be giving whilst going around a roundabout and make allowance that they could be coming off anytime....best cross whilst no cars are coming,if you have to wait,then wait,or as i said earlier-walk faster..
The driver acted in exactly the manner i would have on that particular roundabout,it's to do with the 2nd exit's offset to the original entry point and south road-i feel you need to tell vehicles in south road where you are going,along with any following motorcycles/pushbikes (was there any?) the real problem is relying on the signal..
As for people on mobiles in vehicles,you see every other person in a car texting when in stationary traffic from where i sit,day in day out....
The 2 roundabouts on the A259 in Newhaven have got to be the worst in Sussex, many drivers seem to just make up their own rules when using them.
On the Denton roundabout, drivers coming from Seaford either indicate right and then go straight on, or don't indicate and then turn right to Denton
The B&Q roundabout coming from Seaford towards Newhaven bridge is a nightmare when the traffic is really busy, anything goes including drivers going all the way round the roundabout and back the other way in the inside lane.
The Denton one going from newhaven towards seaford is bad as it takes you straight into the right hand lane and people from Denton assume you're going right round. Then people coming from seaford towards newhaven often go in straight into the right hand lane whereas I always go into the left then merge into the right. Have seen a couple of near misses.
Google maps doesn't really help that much.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9...4!1sRGLlQqJeyLiFVUeALqgG5Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
If you look at the streetview, you will see the B2112 is shown as being at 12 o'clock and therefore no signal is required when approaching the roundabout but you should indicate left when next to South Road. That said, at that particularly roundabout, when approaching from Sussex Road, you only use the left hand lane if going down South Road as the lane is marked with a left arrow.
As a general rule, if your exit is the first one on the roundabout then you signal left when approaching and stay in the left lane. Any exit after that upto 12 o'clock you should approach the roundabout with no signal and then signal left when next to the exit before yours. If your exit is after 12 o'clock then you should signal right and approach in the right hand lane, changing your signal to the left when next to the exit before yours. How you approach the roundabout should be based on what you see on the sign for the roundabout (they aren't always accurate!).
That said, there are anomalies. For example, heading west along the A2300, as you approach the first roundabout there are three exits, 7 o'clock, 10 o'clock and 12 o'clock (the first into the services, the second is south on to the A23 and the last is to go over the bridge). For that roundabout, when taking the third exit at 12 o'clock you would approach in the right hand lane (ie left lane for the first two exits and right hand lane for the last).
Notwithstanding the above, the vast majority of people haven't a clue how and when to signal at roundabouts, principally because signalling isn't for their benefit but for the benefit of other road users!!!!
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9...4!1sRGLlQqJeyLiFVUeALqgG5Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
If you look at the streetview, you will see the B2112 is shown as being at 12 o'clock and therefore no signal is required when approaching the roundabout but you should indicate left when next to South Road. That said, at that particularly roundabout, when approaching from Sussex Road, you only use the left hand lane if going down South Road as the lane is marked with a left arrow.
As a general rule, if your exit is the first one on the roundabout then you signal left when approaching and stay in the left lane. Any exit after that upto 12 o'clock you should approach the roundabout with no signal and then signal left when next to the exit before yours. If your exit is after 12 o'clock then you should signal right and approach in the right hand lane, changing your signal to the left when next to the exit before yours. How you approach the roundabout should be based on what you see on the sign for the roundabout (they aren't always accurate!).
That said, there are anomalies. For example, heading west along the A2300, as you approach the first roundabout there are three exits, 7 o'clock, 10 o'clock and 12 o'clock (the first into the services, the second is south on to the A23 and the last is to go over the bridge). For that roundabout, when taking the third exit at 12 o'clock you would approach in the right hand lane (ie left lane for the first two exits and right hand lane for the last).
Notwithstanding the above, the vast majority of people haven't a clue how and when to signal at roundabouts, principally because signalling isn't for their benefit but for the benefit of other road users!!!!
Drove that exact roundabout around 14:30 today the route BG describes. The left hand lane is left turn only (left turning arrow) and the right hand lane has a straight ahead arrow. I indicated left off the roundabout. Hope this helps.
GoldWithFalmer
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The arrows on the road,along with the road signs on that one-coming from newahven along the drove,it's left hand lane,exiting Sainsburys-left only,into Avis rd...the right hand lane is indeed for Seaford....when past Avis rd indicate left for Seasford,or right if you wish to tell Seaford visitors to Newhaven that you are coming back round the roundabout..
BensGrandad
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If only everybody did that.
GoldWithFalmer
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If they indicated right would it help,before indicating left after making such an error? all too often the real problem is people don't read the road markings and signs..
Indeed. But once on the roundabout you end up in the right hand lane and the left hand lane serves little purpose.
This one really gets on my titties. Coming off the A27 westbound at the Adur flyover, there are two exits ( A283 north and south ) and two lanes going onto the roundabout. Whilst it is normally correct to use the left hand lane to go straight on in this case it is surely logical to use the right. Yet most seem surprised when I do so.
I do the same as you on the Denton roundabout coming from Seaford, I never merge to the right lane immediately though like some do, I always check my mirror to see what the driver behind has done.
I've also seen many near misses by drivers in the right hand lane speeding across the roundabout.
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Is it possible to be much older than you already are, BG?
GoldWithFalmer
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I've used the right on occasion but say i was going to Steyning,i would use the right,but left if say going toward Shoreham...
This could be the makings of a "your favorite roundabout" thread....what with all these pictures
So many drivers come out of Sainsburys and don't indicate to enter the right hand lane towards the Denton roundabout, they then also don't indicate when going round the roundabout to come back towards Newhaven.
If they are going down Hazelgrove Rd from Sussex Rd there is no need to indicate right at the roundabout however, you should indicate right to switch from the left lane (which is for South Rd only) to the right lane.