RandyWanger
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[Albion] Steele and Webster
- Thread starter Reddleman
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albionalex
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Can you explain how Steele was supposed to save any of those today?
Mustafa II
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That's the point isn't it. There's no way Steele could have saved any of those today.
However if we had a top quality keeper in goal, we wouldn't have conceeded six today, that's for sure.
He's a Championship level shot stopper at best. Quality Premier League keepers make outrageous saves all of the time.
Because Webbo has taken on the unfortunate mantle as number one scapegoat since RDZ has been manager.
maltaseagull
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Perhaps ahead of Hinshelwood would be a possible solution. Or not pick 2 strikers and have an extra midfield player to block the huge gaps there today.
Utter tosh. Villa conceded 5 on the opening day with World Cup winning Martinez in goal. It happens.
albionalex
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With a top quality keeper, maybe we concede 5 rather than 6.
I encourage you to watch the goals back (grim viewing). You will see there is nothing the keeper can do.
Mustafa II
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Okay, Steele conceded one more than that... but still, that's not the point.
We see it all the time with Steele, conceding goals that a better keeper would have saved. This is not an isolated game. It's just he's not a very good shot stopper at this level.
Don't mean to be harsh on him, because he's been a great servant and can still do a job as a back up... but keeper is such an important position. A decent shot stopper can so often be the difference between 0 and 3 points... or it could have saved us face on a day like today.
We need to go all in with Bart now.
albionalex
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Can you provide a specific example?
Washie
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Unfortunately, Sanchez on Wednesday made some very good saves when he shouldn't have
macbeth
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martinez almost every time we play villa. pope has done for several years. allison too (aware he’s probably the best itl)
macbeth
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you absolutely can but it’s fairly well known at this point that ferguson and welbeck do not work together. they don’t compliment each other's game and it leave a big gap in midfield.
that line up today almost set him up to fail, absolutely no idea why RDZ thought it would work
tigertim68
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- Sep 3, 2012
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And March , and Welbeck and Mitoma
albionalex
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An example of a goal that we conceded that could have been saved.
Singling out Steele when he was behind that utter car crash of a midfield and defence shows that some people have zero understanding of football. Pervis looked like he won a competition to play in a prem football match, the centre backs left Watkins constantly unmarked, and the central and wide midfield was non existent and incapable of winning a tackle or making basic passes. But let’s blame the keeper. Lol.
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
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Both players who have always struggled to settle into rhythm, Webster always struggles when he is in and out the team/back from injuries and Steele (like most goalkeepers) will struggle with rotation, there’s a reason goalkeepers aren’t often rotated like we are doing at the moment.
RDZ got it massively wrong today, Villas strongest area is midfield and we went in so light in that area it was beyond daft.
RDZ got it massively wrong today, Villas strongest area is midfield and we went in so light in that area it was beyond daft.
LamieRobertson
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Martinez is League 1 at best
I suppose Sanchez who looked amazing Wednesday would have been the answer?
Kalimantan Gull
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Their second certainly, also their fifth and sixth. Third and fourth no, they were deflections. First certainly very hard to save.
Point is that no one is blaming him for not saving any of them them, well hit goals to the corners. But the best keepers pull out jaw-dropping saves that you can't believe they got to.
Can we turn the question round, can you name an amazing mind-blowing save from Steele?
Mustafa II
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He's a considerably better shot stopper than Steele... he always has been. That's blatantly obvious, right?
I am confident that we would have conceded fewer than 6 if he, or indeed any other, first team Premier League keeper was playing for us today.