[Politics] Starmer v Sunak *** Official Match Thread ***

[HangletonGull]

Starmer proper choked that

 

[beorhthelm]

draw, judges couldn't be arse to score because both just flailing without landing much. ref poor. short answer limit poor.

 

[Bozza]

I hate him but Sunak won that. Be interesting to see if it makes any difference.

In the context of the format they both had to work with, he was head and shoulders ahead of Starmer.

Like an aggressive courtroom lawyer being told to stop by the judge, he just kept going to ensure the "jury" got to hear his point.

Beyond that, just a far more polished and confident speaker.

None of this matters of course, which Starmer and Labour must be thankful for. I imagine they'll be doing their best to get out of doing any more of these,

 

[Mike Small]

? Their what?

Bedrooms in their Mansion/Penthouse/estate/whatever that billionaire family want to buy wherever they want to buy it.

 

[London Irish]

I hate him but Sunak won that. Be interesting to see if it makes any difference.

It won’t - most people already know Starmer is a wooden block of weirdness, but there is no way the Tories aren’t getting slaughtered. The fun will come after the election when absolutely nothing changes

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

What worries me is my recollection of the 1985 Prince Of Wales Stakes, there were only 4 runners and the two market leaders (Comanche Run and Pebbles) were so focused on each other that the outsider Bob Back pissed up at 33/1

 

[borat]

Fans deserve a refund. Presented with two lying individuals who lack vision.

 

[A1X]

Apparently Sunak is refusing to do the Sky News leaders thing in Grimsby unless he can be on the stage with Starmer when he’s answering questions, presumably tonight we saw why as he’s only interested in shouting Starmer down and not letting him answer.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I wonder what a TV debate between Potter and RDZ about who was the best Brighton manager would look like?

 

[peterward]

Trying to be objective - Sunak probably won the first half, Starmer the second. But this is a format that is fundamentally flawed - serious issues reduced to a quick shouty soundbite.

Being objective both were crap but Starmer more so.

I genuinely don't like Sunak but he was far more polished in his presentation and had Starmer on the back foot more than the other way round.

Will it makes any difference? No. After manifestos move the news cycle and on reflection Starmer will learn from it and people will forget it as other debates happen.

Farage the pound shop Enoch Powell is going to roast the pair of them in a TV debate.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Weve all seen horses, strongly odds-on.

The trainer comes on, '''we'll do our best and see what happens*
Starmer looked edgy, uncomfortable and pointless.
God help the next few years.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Half decent debate. Wasn’t sure who to vote for but Labour are now in pole position for my X.

 

[London Irish]

In the context of the format they both had to work with, he was head and shoulders ahead of Starmer.

Like an aggressive courtroom lawyer being told to stop by the judge, he just kept going to ensure the "jury" got to hear his point.

But Starmer is the QC? You’d shit yourself if he was the one defending you

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Moderators. Need mute buttons for these things

 

[pocketseagull]

Starmer is awful but I think him getting pelters from people who support what the tories have done to this country is a bit of a piss take tbh

 

[A1X]

Snap Yougov “who did better?” poll result;

Sunak - 51%
Starmer - 49%

Perhaps not quite the trouncing some on here claim?

 

[dwayne]

I wonder what a TV debate between Potter and RDZ about who was the best Brighton manager would look like?

Starmer reminds me a bit of potter.

 

[ozzygull]

Starmer is a fraud, no plan whatsoever

Yes so let’s have 5 more years of lying self serving *unts instead.

 

[A1X]

But Starmer is the QC? You’d shit yourself if he was the one defending you

KCs generally get longer than 45 seconds to make their case, and don’t have someone heckling and making shit up shouting them down

 

[portslade seagull]

Apparently Sunak is refusing to do the Sky News leaders thing in Grimsby unless he can be on the stage with Starmer when he’s answering questions, presumably tonight we saw why as he’s only interested in shouting Starmer down and not letting him answer.

Starmer just wasn't strong enough