[News] Stabbing at the Royal Sussex this morning

[Badger Boy]

That **** used to live in the flat above me. Walter Mitty character that lived in his own head. Used to pace around upstairs all night every night, all lights in his flat blazing. All this bollocks about the devil and the SAS. Funny how the original articles at the time said he stabbed the poor victim because he didn't have the key to the drugs cabinet. Hope they throw away the key to the ****'s padded cell

Didn't that behaviour make you question his sanity? I'm sure you're the type of caring individual who would want to raise your concerns to the appropriate services to ensure would get the help he would need. Or did you just dismiss him as being someone you didn't care for and therefore decided it wasn't your problem?

The man quite clearly has issues. Lashing out as he did is awful and anyone could have been a victim of his. He's going to get the help he needs and maybe there's no helping him. But maybe with the right support, guidance and influences he can go on to be a productive member of society.

 

[pasty]

At a tangent ....... is it called the Royal Sussex now? I’ve always known it as the County, or if confirmation needed the Sussex County.

Both in a way. It is The Royal Sussex County Hospital.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Didn't that behaviour make you question his sanity? I'm sure you're the type of caring individual who would want to raise your concerns to the appropriate services to ensure would get the help he would need. Or did you just dismiss him as being someone you didn't care for and therefore decided it wasn't your problem?

The man quite clearly has issues. Lashing out as he did is awful and anyone could have been a victim of his. He's going to get the help he needs and maybe there's no helping him. But maybe with the right support, guidance and influences he can go on to be a productive member of society.

He and his sister moved into the flat. She seemed fine, and still does. And pacing up and down all night every night in a house doesn't necessarily equate to insanity. Tho maybe worth adding that the next - and current - tenant in the same flat does exactly the same. Paces up and down all night. Except when he has his 5 year old daughter staying. Then they tend to usually settle down for the night at about 1.30am. Sake!

 

[Chicken Run]

He and his sister moved into the flat. She seemed fine, and still does. And pacing up and down all night every night in a house doesn't necessarily equate to insanity. Tho maybe worth adding that the next - and current - tenant in the same flat does exactly the same. Paces up and down all night. Except when he has his 5 year old daughter staying. Then they tend to usually settle down for the night at about 1.30am. Sake!

Is the flat upstairs let? If so can you pm me the letting agent name, I might know then?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Is the flat upstairs let? If so can you pm me the letting agent name, I might know then?

Scaring me now

 

[Chicken Run]

Scaring me now

I might know the letting agent [emoji1]

 

[Gwylan]

The guy was perfectly compos mentis enough the year before to up sticks and move to the US to further his 'career' as a mover and/or shaker in the music business. The subsequent attempts to sway the narrative in his favour are quite vile IMHO. There's only one victim in all of this

He's been sectioned under the Mental Health Act, that's not just ticking boxes; so he clearly isn't "compos mentis". It's pretty disgraceful that you're trying to make light of mental illness TBH. He was looking for treatment and couldn't get it - he's as much as a victim as the unfortunate bloke who was stabbed.

 

[Chicken Run]

He's been sectioned under the Mental Health Act, that's not just ticking boxes; so he clearly isn't "compos mentis". It's pretty disgraceful that you're trying to make light of mental illness TBH. He was looking for treatment and couldn't get it - he's as much as a victim as the unfortunate bloke who was stabbed.

I’m sure you mean well but seeing as Tom had to put up with this bloke I think you’re being a tad harsh [emoji1745]

 

[Badger Boy]

I’m sure you mean well but seeing as Tom had to put up with this bloke I think you’re being a tad harsh [emoji1745]

No. There isn't really the possibility to be too harsh on Tom. He's out of order, whether he'll acknowledge it or not. He doesn't know anything about the state of mind this chap was in, at any stage. Blithely and ignorantly making sweeping judgements is neither helpful nor justified. Maybe it's a subject he doesn't know much about and that's understandable, but it's not appropriate to think it's fine or reasonable to use this line; "All this bollocks about the devil and the SAS".

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

He's been sectioned under the Mental Health Act, that's not just ticking boxes; so he clearly isn't "compos mentis". It's pretty disgraceful that you're trying to make light of mental illness TBH. He was looking for treatment and couldn't get it - he's as much as a victim as the unfortunate bloke who was stabbed.

Bollocks. And shame on you for even suggesting it. Guy was clearly roaming around the RSHC early on a Sunday morning hoping to score the key to the drugs cabinet. Then stabbed the poor victim that didn't have access to it. None of that SAS/helipad/devil shit was even mentioned earlydoors (there is no suggestion that the **** was being schooled as to what to say at trial, obviously)

 

[herecomesaregular]

Bollocks. And shame on you for even suggesting it. Guy was clearly roaming around the RSHC early on a Sunday morning hoping to score the key to the drugs cabinet. Then stabbed the poor victim that didn't have access to it. None of that SAS/helipad/devil shit was even mentioned earlydoors (there is no suggestion that the **** was being schooled as to what to say at trial, obviously)

When I read about incidents such as these I tend to think about both parties and then think There By The Grace of God Go I. We could always be that innocent person who is in the wrong place at the wrong time and, maybe, we could also be that person who mentally flips out and suddenly or over time loses their reality and control over their mind....

 

[WATFORD zero]

Bollocks. And shame on you for even suggesting it. Guy was clearly roaming around the RSHC early on a Sunday morning hoping to score the key to the drugs cabinet. Then stabbed the poor victim that didn't have access to it. None of that SAS/helipad/devil shit was even mentioned earlydoors (there is no suggestion that the **** was being schooled as to what to say at trial, obviously)

So you know better than the people who sat through the trial, heard all the evidence from the witnesses, including the attempts to get him sectioned before any of this happened, the reports from medical specialists and everything else that was put forward in court. I have had to be involved in people getting sectioned and I can assure you it can happen from a stable situation very quickly.

But you know better because he was a bit of a t**t when he lived above you, how long ago ?

T**ts can have mental health issues too. I really think you should stop digging

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

So you know better than the people who sat through the trial, heard all the evidence from the witnesses, including the attempts to get him sectioned before any of this happened, the reports from medical specialists and everything else that was put forward in court. I have had to be involved in people getting sectioned and I can assure you it can happen from a stable situation very quickly.

But you know better because he was a bit of a t**t when he lived above you ?

T**ts can have mental health issues too. I really think you should stop digging

No digging here. Just saying there was no mention of the SAS, the devil or the RSCH helipad in the original reports. On the other hand, plenty of mentions of the key to the drugs cabinet not being made forthcoming by the innocent victim just doing his job on the early shift, serving the community in which he lives and works

 

[Eeyore]

The guy was perfectly compos mentis enough the year before to up sticks and move to the US to further his 'career' as a mover and/or shaker in the music business. The subsequent attempts to sway the narrative in his favour are quite vile IMHO. There's only one victim in all of this

A bit like an old friend of mine who was sectioned a couple of weeks back. I was totally in shock. A very gentle, balanced family man. No sign of any issues- ever. Lockdown sent him over the edge.

Then there is my Dad, the same, who I will never forget having to bring home early from a meal, whilst shivering and weeping in the belief that that the bank had seized his house and the tax people were coming to send him to prison, despite the house having been paid for and there never having been any issues with HMRC. His problems lasted over 20 years.

Then there is my 12 year battle with anxiety and occasional paranoia that has greatly reduced my ability to attend large gatherings and other stuff.

You know nothing of this case and are clearly fortunate enough to not have been affected.

I think you should keep wise your counsel.

The person was attacked in this case due to the perpetrator being insane. All are punished.

 

[Badger Boy]

No digging here. Just saying there was no mention of the SAS, the devil or the RSCH helipad in the original reports. On the other hand, plenty of mentions of the key to the drugs cabinet not being made forthcoming by the innocent victim just doing his job on the early shift, serving the community in which he lives and works

So, because it wasn't mentioned in the original reports - it was all just an act? Or all just for the defence? You speak as if you know all the facts of the case and can confidently discuss the outcome. You can't. You simply don't know the ins and outs, and none of us do or should.

You're speaking with great confidence from a position of great ignorance, that's the point I'm making. My advice would be simple, pack it in.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

So, because it wasn't mentioned in the original reports - it was all just an act? Or all just for the defence? You speak as if you know all the facts of the case and can confidently discuss the outcome. You can't. You simply don't know the ins and outs, and none of us do or should.

You're speaking with great confidence from a position of great ignorance, that's the point I'm making. My advice would be simple, pack it in.

Everybody falling over themselves to empathise with the **** roaming the RSCH at quarter to eight in the morning on a sunny summer's day sunday, rather than empathising with the NHS guy just doing his job that got stabbed multiple times because he didn't have access to the drugs cabinet? Nice

 

[Eeyore]

Everybody falling over themselves to empathise with the **** roaming the RSCH at quarter to eight in the morning on a sunny summer's day sunday, rather than empathising with the NHS guy just doing his job that got stabbed multiple times because he didn't have access to the drugs cabinet? Nice

The discussion, as directed by yourself, has focused on the attacker. That is where folk are at. It is being pointed out to you that he was insane, thus impossible to be a judge of sane character.

If you were discussing the affect on his victim there would naturally be concern and empathy.

The two are separate because of the circumstance.

 

[The Clamp]

I work with adults with complex mental health issues. If you lived near to some of them or encountered them on the street, you may well think they were just ********s. And I couldn't blame you for that, that is often how they present. I know nothing of this man so can't really comment but lots of trauma and complex needs can be hidden under anti-social behaviour. However, my thoughts go out to the victim. Whatever the circumstances of the knife-man it does not take away from the trauma that has now been inflicted on the poor bloke who was stabbed.

 

[Badger Boy]

Everybody falling over themselves to empathise with the **** roaming the RSCH at quarter to eight in the morning on a sunny summer's day sunday, rather than empathising with the NHS guy just doing his job that got stabbed multiple times because he didn't have access to the drugs cabinet? Nice

I don't think anyone has trouble empathising with the victim and their family. That's a very different conversation than the one you intentionally started and are now trying to distract from. Usual online tactics from someone who doesn't seem to fully understand the implications of what they've started. Intentionally or accidentally.

 

[Chicken Run]

I think a few of you are being unfair on Tom seeing he’s the only person here who’s met the perp? And suffered by all accounts!