Speed Camera Question

[Superphil]

the lines on the road merely indicate the distance (a quarter mile i believe) that you are measured travelling over

It's a thousand times less than that

 

[moggy]

If i there is a camera pointing at the road and the lines on the road are on the other side of the road, when the camera does the double flash thing, can you be caught for speeding?

if its a truvelo, then yes because they get you coming towards it.
if it was a gatso, then no as they get you going away from it.

a truvelo has the round lens housing and the gatso has the square lens housing.

anyone in surrey should be wary now as the new digital cameras are now in operation

 

[Yorkie]

When police hold speed trap cameras at the side of the road they can record you speeding coming towards them.
Gatso cameras work by taking photos of the rear of the car with the lines.

You'll know within 14 days. If there is a photo, the camera is tested to see if it recording correctly and a statement is made by the expert for court if it is prosecuted by summons.

 

[Robot Chicken]

Truvelo:

 

[Rangdo]

anyone in surrey should be wary now as the new digital cameras are now in operation

No. Anyone speeding in Surrey should be wary

 

[Cheshire Cat]

They can also be set to take pictures of cars that jump red traffic lights. If there is a camera but no lines on the road, it is probably set up for this.

There is also an increasing policy to ensure that ALL cameras are loaded with film ALL the time. If they are digital cameras they will be set permanently.

Also if you get caught, you have to go to court to see the photos and challenge the evidence, but that risks a double fine of £60 plus 3 points. If you admit it and pay up straight away its £30 plus 3 points.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

It was a GATSO on carden avenue i believe, just bit worried, i thought i was doing under 40 and when i checked after the camera went off i was doing 40 but this was a little bit up the hill so i was probably doing over 40 when i went past the camera

Can't think of a permanent camera on Carden Avenue...and even if there was temporary or mobile one, that particular road is a 30mph limit, so your efforts to maintain a speed of 40 would appear to be somewhat pointless!

If you mean Ditchling Road...it's still in a 30mph zone, as are all the speed cameras in central Brighton/Hove (Marine Parade, Eastern Road, Preston Road, Old Shoreham Road, Kingsway).

 

[Lady Whistledown]

It occurs to me you probably mean Coldean Lane?

That's in a 40 zone, and would make sense re your comments about travelling uphill against a camera pointing downhill.

 

[logan89]

It occurs to me you probably mean Coldean Lane?

That's in a 40 zone, and would make sense re your comments about travelling uphill against a camera pointing downhill.

yea that's the one i always get those two mixed up, i should have said where Varley Halls are.

 

[NMH]

More like 100 FEET of markings, nothing like 1/4 mile.

 

[Billy the Fish]

I think I got done today on the M23 southbound, it was one of the mobile vans that gets you going towards it. Doing just over 80 so will be another 3 points. Bugger

 

[Da Man Clay]

Also if you get caught, you have to go to court to see the photos and challenge the evidence, but that risks a double fine of £60 plus 3 points. If you admit it and pay up straight away its £30 plus 3 points.

Not so sure thats true, pretty sure you have a legal right to see the photos prior to the court case.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

It occurs to me you probably mean Coldean Lane?

That's in a 40 zone, and would make sense re your comments about travelling uphill against a camera pointing downhill.

You cops should be out protesting about speed cameras because it means there are NO TRAFFIC COPS ANYMORE, ergo everyone is out drink driving, albeit at the speed limit.

I am actually trying to make a serious point, I have noticed over the last couple of years that DD is back on the rise because people know that there is a greater reliance on cameras to police the roads while all the bizzies are deployed in town centres stopping binge drinking scraps. Surely others have noticed too?

 

[Yorkie]

Not so sure thats true, pretty sure you have a legal right to see the photos prior to the court case.

You do. You also have a time limit in which to reply. Ask as soon as possible.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

You cops should be out protesting about speed cameras because it means there are NO TRAFFIC COPS ANYMORE, ergo everyone is out drink driving, albeit at the speed limit.

I am actually trying to make a serious point, I have noticed over the last couple of years that DD is back on the rise because people know that there is a greater reliance on cameras to police the roads while all the bizzies are deployed in town centres stopping binge drinking scraps. Surely others have noticed too?

<sighs>

I can vouch for the fact that there are no less traffic cops where I work than there have been at any previous time during my employment.

Road Policing is an entirely separate department within most police forces, and I can assure you that your average traffic cop will run a MILE before deigning to get involved in such trivialities as "binge drinking scraps", because that would involve paperwork, as opposed to a quick ticket or court file. They certainly don't get intentionally deployed to standard policing stuff, far from it, any more than the rest of us go and sit in lay-bys, waiting to catch people speeding. And they aren't being shoved over to neighbourhood policing as you seem to believe- take it from me, your average traffic copper has spent years attempting to get out of exactly that, and on to RPD, therefore half of them would probably quit the force before they went back to 'common or garden' policing.

IF drink driving is on the rise (and I say if, because I have no idea of the current stats, and I don't know whether you're basing that on newspaper comment/ anecdotal evidence)...it ain't down to fewer traffic coppers, that's for one thing.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Traffic cops certainly haven't disappeared from the roads of Sussex. They are constantly cluttering up the road outside the place I work, blocking the entrance to our premises, despite promises from our friendly neighbourhood police officers that this won't happen. Our FNPOs know how busy our entrance is - and are constantly having to apologise for the obstructions caused by their colleagues. "Trouble is, sir, those traffic cops think they own the roads".

 

[Bry Nylon]

They did a bit of feature about speed cameras on radio 5 Live yesterday. This expert they had on was claiming that inspite all the cameras, the number of road deaths has remained static in the UK over the past few years, even though cars have far more passive and active safety systems than ever before. (Across Europe road fatalities have been falling by about 5% per annum, but not in the UK, so he claimed).

A second interesting point was that inspite of all the speeding penalties handed out as a result of cameras, the number of disqualifications hasn't increased. He reckoned this is because people are 'passing them out' around their family, if they are getting close to a ban...

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I can't be arsed with all these speed camera arguments, ie whether they stop accidents or not.

At the end of the day, we all know what the limits are, therefore you either stick to them or you don't. Does it matter whether you only stick to it on 'dangerous' bits of road, or should we be allowed to transgress where we feel it's safe to do so? Should we obey only the laws that we feel like adhering to?

Ultimately, if we're going to have speed limits, then a line has to be drawn somewhere surely, consequently if you get busted , get on with it. If I get caught, I'll be pretty pissed off, but only with myself for getting in that position. Who else's fault is it??

Put it this way: if you got caught burgling someone's house, would you complain to the court that it was unfair you got arrested because you didn't know a police officer would be passing outside when you climbed out of the window?

 

[Bry Nylon]

I can't be arsed with all these speed camera arguments, ie whether they stop accidents or not.

At the end of the day, we all know what the limits are, therefore you either stick to them or you don't. Does it matter whether you only stick to it on 'dangerous' bits of road, or should we be allowed to transgress where we feel it's safe to do so? Should we obey only the laws that we feel like adhering to?

Ultimately, if we're going to have speed limits, then a line has to be drawn somewhere surely, consequently if you get busted , get on with it. If I get caught, I'll be pretty pissed off, but only with myself for getting in that position. Who else's fault is it??

Put it this way: if you got caught burgling someone's house, would you complain to the court that it was unfair you got arrested because you didn't know a police officer would be passing outside when you climbed out of the window?

No, I agree. I don't have a problem with speed cameras at all. (Afterall, I have a 30 year old Land Rover, so the thought of being awarded a speeding ticket is something of which I can but only dream). Whether or not they lead to less collisions is another matter I guess, but I'm all in favour of people breaking speed limits getting the appropriate penalty.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Before anyone points it out, my feelings on this matter aren't a standard copper's response, it's just something I've always felt.



Anyone think there should be no cameras, thus allowing people to drive as fast as they like?