Speed Camera Question

[logan89]

If i there is a camera pointing at the road and the lines on the road are on the other side of the road, when the camera does the double flash thing, can you be caught for speeding?

 

[Dave the OAP]

No.....in fact its a game lots of people play

 

[Storer68]

the lines on the road merely indicate the distance (a quarter mile i believe) that you are measured travelling over

 

[Easy 10]

Its nowhere near a quarter mile.

 

[logan89]

i mean the lines that are like 10cm apart, i was on the way up towards asda and the camera flashed i was the only one on the road don't know what spped i was doing and just wondered if they can still get me or not.

 

[Uncle C]

i mean the lines that are like 10cm apart, i was on the way up towards asda and the camera flashed i was the only one on the road don't know what spped i was doing and just wondered if they can still get me or not.

You'll get a ticket for certain. Slow down.

 

[gullshark]

If its a regular GATSO camera then you can only be flashed from behind and convicted.

You can set them off going tward them, but you won't hear anything back.

 

[Stevie Boy]

the markings on the road are to work out the speed you were doing, distance over time i think is how u work it out, with out the markings, how can they tell you wot speed you were doing

 

[Superphil]

the markings on the road are to work out the speed you were doing, distance over time i think is how u work it out, with out the markings, how can they tell you wot speed you were doing

The cameras are perfectly capable of working out how fast you are going with one photo and no lines on the road. But one photo is not admisable as evidence, hence the cameras take two pictures which can then be used to calculate time over distance. Provided the camera is correctly calibrated.

 

[Barrow Boy]

No they can't do you, the one at Brooklands Lancing does the same thing. It only registers cars travelling North but you can set it off by doing over 30 mph in the opposite direction, it's good fun.

 

[beorhthelm]

ive seen a new camera near me that has no white markings on the road, so no visual clue its there. alot higher than the normal gatso ones too, about street light high.

 

[logan89]

It was a GATSO on carden avenue i believe, just bit worried, i thought i was doing under 40 and when i checked after the camera went off i was doing 40 but this was a little bit up the hill so i was probably doing over 40 when i went past the camera

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

The Camera you mention on Ditchling Road always does that, In fact I set it off every morning on purpose, all you need to do is accelerate to around 50 as you go past it and it will trigger.

Incidentally I bet loads of people actually going at the speed limit past it have been flashed because of someone going the other way at speed, I wonder if any have been wrongly done? also if you were speeding and got caught by it, If you could prove it has this fault, could you win an appeal?

 

[Superphil]

ive seen a new camera near me that has no white markings on the road, so no visual clue its there. alot higher than the normal gatso ones too, about street light high.

Yup, if it's yellow then a new gen camera. Needs no white lines, I think has digital storage, so no film. http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso6.htm

Find out more here http://www.ukspeedcameras.co.uk/guide.htm

Simple really, don't speed, you'll be fine.

 

[beorhthelm]

Incidentally I bet loads of people actually going at the speed limit past it have been flashed because of someone going the other way at speed, I wonder if any have been wrongly done?

hence the reason for the white markings to verify the speed.

Yup, if it's yellow then a new gen camera. Needs no white lines, I think has digital storage, so no film.

so i wonder how the readings from these can be verified?

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

so i wonder how the readings from these can be verified?

Radar?

 

[Mtoto]

The Camera you mention on Ditchling Road always does that, In fact I set it off every morning on purpose, all you need to do is accelerate to around 50 as you go past it and it will trigger.

Incidentally I bet loads of people actually going at the speed limit past it have been flashed because of someone going the other way at speed, I wonder if any have been wrongly done? also if you were speeding and got caught by it, If you could prove it has this fault, could you win an appeal?

Think I read somewhere on the speed camera site that if it goes off when you're going in the other direction, it tends to mean there's no film in it and so the calibration is not adjusted as accurately as would be the case if it was recording.

 

[Superphil]

hence the reason for the white markings to verify the speed.



so i wonder how the readings from these can be verified?

Well, on the older cameras the manufacturers couldn't prove the accuracy and infalibilty of the cameras, so the double take was introduced. On the more modern ones, this can be done, the machine can be proved to be working correctly. I think some of them also have induction sensor loops under the tarmac too.

 

[beorhthelm]

Radar?

thats how it takes the reading. the purpose of the lines was so when you claimed you weren't going that fast and "prove it", they could produce two nice photos taken .5 seconds apart with nice marking so anyone with an O level/GCSE in physics could verify the speed.

the machine can be proved to be working correctly. I think some of them also have induction sensor loops under the tarmac too.

i do wonder how, i would contest any such evidence on principle, its your word against the machine and manufacturer. the court and i cannot see the evidence that the machine is correct. await the first test case on the legitimacy of them.

in the US one type of camara has been made redundant because the manufacturer wouldnt release the source code to show how the device operated when someone requested it as part of their trial.

 

[csider]

the lines on the road merely indicate the distance (a quarter mile i believe) that you are measured travelling over

1/4 of a mile??

Told you a million times not too exaggerate.