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[Sussex] Southern Water rip off



StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
They didn’t like it, and told me that when I sell the house, I can only sell it as a 2 bedroom.

I don’t think I’ll be asking Southern Water for a valuation, even if I was thinking of selling.

I hope you told them to fark right off.
Even just reading that pissed me off and I neither know you, nor live in the country!
The absolute cheek of it.
 




lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
NSC Patron
Jun 11, 2011
14,069
Worthing
I hope you told them to fark right off.
Even just reading that pissed me off and I neither know you, nor live in the country!
The absolute cheek of it.


I just laughed at the guy on the phone,they had said at first, I wasn’t allowed to change a bedroom into an office.

Don’t tell them, since our grandkids have come along, it’s reverted to a bedroom.:lolol:


The thing that really annoyed me was the fact that previously to them deciding to put a meter in, I was paying £15 less than they wanted after they found they couldn’t put a meter in.
Nothing had changed, we weren’t using more water or producing more waste, in fact,about a year before, the last of our kids had left home, so we were probably using less. And, we would almost certainly be paying less if we could have a meter.

Water , gas, electricity and the railways should never have been privatised.
 
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Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
The rip off doesn't end when you're dead either ! I'm the executor of my parents estate both who died in the last six months. While a small amount, about £50, SW can't explain to me how an empty house can use that amount of water. Currently under investigation but I've told them to write off like many other 'creditors' have. Really, scammers of the highest order. I wouldn't mind but I know they recently rebuilt their IT function and employed many managers on very high salaries. I suspect there is someone on here that works for SW IT as well eh SP :kiss:
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
United Utilities £36 a month on a meter for two people.
 




1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
£28.95 a month with Southern Water.
No meter, 4 bed house.

How have you avoided not having a meter installed? Southern Water have a legal right to install meters. The householder has no right to refuse a meter in areas of the country deemed to be in 'serious water stress'. Southern Water operates in just such an area.

Our bill is horrendous. Currently £108 a month and it's still not covering what they claim we use apparently.

5 of us in the house and a teenager who needs extra water for a medical condition. We are on an 'essentials' tariff, but no longer qualify for 'Water Sure' which caps the annual bill at 400 odd quid. To qualify for Water Sure you have to be in receipt of job seekers allowance or a means tested benefit in addition to other qualifying conditions like medical need, or 3 or more children under 19 and in full time education. Only two of ours are still under 19. We are no longer in receipt of any means tested benefits.

Privatisation is a misnomer as regards water companies. Whilst we can all shop around for a more 'competitive' energy supplier, we cannot do this for our water supply. Each water company effectively operates a monopoly.

Meanwhile, Southern Water pollute and pay fines that likely barely touch their profits. And there's this ...

Now financial accounts for Southern Water show its chief executive Ian McAulay - brought in to ensure change in the organisation - was handed a £550,900 bonus in 2020/21. Mr McAulay has a £435,000-a-year salary and with pension payments and benefits secured a £1.082m pay package.19 Jul 2021

Still, we all got a Christmas card from them. Which was nice.
 




1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
I pay £46 a month for a big feck off house and I have no meter.

Just one of many reasons that I'd love to move up North. If the right opportunity came up, I'd be out of this over crowded rip off South East in a flash.
 




Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,238
Withdean area
Southern Water charges for us (always metered):
From £200 to £720 a year, in just 20 years.

In a low inflation era, that’s real terms hyper inflation of prices.

It will not be unique to this region whatsoever. Governments of all colours, via OFWAT, have sanctioned this.

How do financially struggling people meet this cost?

Mortgage/rent, elec/gas, car fuel and grocery costs get mentioned frequently, but not water costs.
 


Elbow750

Well-known member
Jun 21, 2020
508
£70 a month, 4 adults who all work from home now and a dog (gets a good hose down after muddy walks). Southern Water and metered. It was much lower before my 30 ​year old son moved move back home with his girl friend.

I have always brought the most water and energy efficient appliances (saves loads in the long run) and have an aerating eco shower head. I'm in the environmental field and know I use a bit less than the average family per head. I have over 25 years of water consumption records to prove it!
 
















Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,238
Withdean area
My heart may be, but my pockets ain't.

At least it’s cheaper out your way.

Even 25 years ago, Brighton and Hove, everything from a cafe/restaurant visit to car repairs to building work, was on another level and some compared to eg Lancing, Newhaven, Eastbourne, Worthing.

It’s self fulfilling. With sky high house prices compared to the aforementioned, Brightonians charge far more for their services.
 


1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
Southern Water charges for us (always metered):
From £200 to £720 a year, in just 20 years.

In a low inflation era, that’s real terms hyper inflation of prices.

It will not be unique to this region whatsoever. Governments of all colours, via OFWAT, have sanctioned this.

How do financially struggling people meet this cost?

Mortgage/rent, elec/gas, car fuel and grocery costs get mentioned frequently, but not water costs.

Because the media is written and presented by either right wing twats, or left wing well meaning do gooders whose only actual experience of poverty is running out of avocados to go with the feta cheese and that locally sourced artisan bread. Or their poor little darlings no longer being able to travel and study freely in Europe.

Bunch of cvnts the lot of them!
 






Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,238
Withdean area
Because the media is written and presented by either right wing twats, or left wing well meaning do gooders whose only actual experience of poverty is running out of avocados to go with the feta cheese and that locally sourced artisan bread. Or their poor little darlings no longer being able to travel and study freely in Europe.

Bunch of cvnts the lot of them!

Journalists, ‘influencers’, plus the same names (young and old) called up as guests to review the newspapers slots or C5’s Jeremy Vine, all live in a London centric middle class bubble, far wealthier than the average Joe. A water bill to them is chickenfeed.
 


jackanada

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2011
3,505
Brighton
£72billion paid out in dividends since water privatization.
Bills up 40% above inflation.
Infrastructure investment 15% down.
And that's not accounting for almost everything being subcontracted and the profit taking there.
Shit still being pumped into the sea.

Not exactly a success yet this is the model we want for the NHS.

Unless it course the major objective was the upward transfer of wealth in which case a roaring success.
 


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