Southern Rail STRIKE details

[yxee]

Voices in your head again ? You better see a Doctor before you make an even BIGGER moron of yourself

You're fighting an uphill battle here. Unions and Southern are as bad as each other.

 

[Ernest]

A ticket from a to b !! Ok it was probably supposed to be on a certain time train, but if they have a history of being cancelled, how can a guard have the balls to throw her off a train ? It's disgusting !!

Us customers have been ****ed about for ages now, what right does some jobsworth have to throw a girl and a disabled child off a train because their ticket isn't valid on the train for an already disrupted service ?

Scum

Abuse never helped any situation, soon as you use the term jobsworth you fail the attitude test. It's a shame that people don't realise that if you abuse someone you're less likely to get what you want rather than a polite request.
I guess if I walked into your place of work and berated you for your managements failings, called you scum and a jobsworth then you'd just sit there and take it ?

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Abuse never helped any situation, soon as you use the term jobsworth you fail the attitude test. It's a shame that people don't realise that if you abuse someone you're less likely to get what you want rather than a polite request.
I guess if I walked into your place of work and berated you for your managements failings, called you scum and a jobsworth then you'd just sit there and take it ?

I think he was just asking for some common sense. Sadly your former colleagues do seem to lack this from time to time. Hearts and minds etc etc

 

[Ernest]

I think he was just asking for some common sense. Sadly your former colleagues do seem to lack this from time to time. Hearts and minds etc etc

It depends really , if someone gets on says politely I think this ticket isn't valid but because of the delays I need to travel now I'd say 99% if not all of times the Conductor would ok it. If someone gets on, either doesn't say anything and waits for their ticket to be checked or gives out the verbals 'jobsworth' etc then more than likely they would have difficulties.

It's nothing to do with railways , more to do with life and if you are polite and reasonable you're more likely to have less problems getting help than if you go around abusing people and having a go at them for the faults of their managers.

 

[Deadly Danson]

It depends really , if someone gets on says politely I think this ticket isn't valid but because of the delays I need to travel now I'd say 99% if not all of times the Conductor would ok it. If someone gets on, either doesn't say anything and waits for their ticket to be checked or gives out the verbals 'jobsworth' etc then more than likely they would have difficulties.

It's nothing to do with railways , more to do with life and if you are polite and reasonable you're more likely to have less problems getting help than if you go around abusing people and having a go at them for the faults of their managers.

100% correct. I don't know of any guard who if you seek them out with a not strictly valid ticket and ask if it's ok to travel won't be fine. But if you sit there (with for arguments sake a ticket for a 10.00 train and it's 16.00 which has saved the user £20) and wait for the guard to come and then call him a jobsworth then you may face trouble (not saying this is what happened in this case of course).

 

[smileyweb]

None of the tickets machines in the Horsham area are taking cards, today, so the only people you can get a ticket from (if you don't want to queue for ages when you get to London) are train guards.

When I said "It's nice to be popular", as a queue formed behind me, the guard on my train said "Yeah, but I'll be hated again tomorrow."

:-(

 

[Stat Brother]

Going to London tomorrow for my first choo-choo train ride in yonks, what's the latest?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Going to London tomorrow for my first choo-choo train ride in yonks, what's the latest?

I suppose the most significant change is that steam trains have been replaced by electric ones.

 

[In The Rough]

I suppose the most significant change is that steam trains have been replaced by electric ones.

And are more expensive, less reliable and far less comfortable.

 

[pearl]

does anyone on here know what's happening now, into 7th week of 'temporary' timetable, all gone quiet RMT and Southern

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

does anyone on here know what's happening now, into 7th week of 'temporary' timetable, all gone quiet RMT and Southern

Like I say back door Beeching. This will soon be "the norm"

 

[pearl]

Like I say back door Beeching. This will soon be "the norm"

yeah, feels like it already is, have noticed new guards being trained up, still to operate the doors though.

 

[sydney]

cost cutting , cost cutting , cost cutting.....it's all well and good , clearly not a "rail service" any more .......do these companies lease the rolling stock off the govt. on a contract , who pays for the billions of pounds(?no doubt) worth of repairs and upkeep of the ageing rail system.....?? can't we get the emirate states to plough money into the rail system , clearly all the english multi millionaires are saving their pennies for extra lube and but plugs , copies of razzle and s& m gear......!!

 

[studio150]

does anyone on here know what's happening now, into 7th week of 'temporary' timetable, all gone quiet RMT and Southern

Does raise the question when does emergency become permanent

 

[ditchy]

Does raise the question when does emergency become permanent

It has . cannnot see this going back to what was the "Normal" timetable

 

[Birdie Boy]

Many years ago my grandad offered his seat to a lady and he stood up by the slam door. She hadn't shut it and he fell out! Some minor brain damage but at least he survived!

A mate of mine got caught in a slam door and fell under the rain and it pulled off. Both legs amputated.

Seems like slam doors weren't that great to me!

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[Ernest]

It has . cannnot see this going back to what was the "Normal" timetable

When people accept it rather than protest and kick up a fuss with their MP and make sure he knows he won't be voted for at the next election

 

[coagulantwolf]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37168008

Workers on Southern trains are to stage a 48-hour strike on 7 and 8 September in the continuing dispute over the role of guards, the RMT union has announced.

The union is fighting plans by Southern owner Govia Thameslink (GTR) to turn conductors into "on-board supervisors", with drivers taking over responsibility for opening and closing carriage doors.

Services have been disrupted for months due to industrial action.

Changes to the role of guards were imposed from Sunday.

 

[WonderingSoton]

Abuse never helped any situation, soon as you use the term jobsworth you fail the attitude test. It's a shame that people don't realise that if you abuse someone you're less likely to get what you want rather than a polite request.
I guess if I walked into your place of work and berated you for your managements failings, called you scum and a jobsworth then you'd just sit there and take it ?

Politeness and patience works both ways though. The Southern customers have had the piss taken out of them by both Southern and the RMT union for months now.

Bridges have been burnt on both customer and employee sides it's probably fair to say.

 

[Ernest]

Politeness and patience works both ways though. The Southern customers have had the piss taken out of them by both Southern and the RMT union for months now.

Bridges have been burnt on both customer and employee sides it's probably fair to say.

I'm talking about personal abuse, when someone is simply doing their job and somebody sees fit to hurl abuse at them then that is not on.