Southern Rail STRIKE details

[The Albion Roar]

So GTR and the RMT are up in front of the Parliamentary Select Committee for transport. Just hope Mick Cash doesn't get their backs up by using hyperbolic language. I'm massively on his side, but he needs to dial it in a bit.

You can watch the fun and games here...

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/69dab8ef-e65d-4713-8ccf-98954e7345a1

It starts at 10.05, delayed from 10am. Really.

 

[Cosmic Joker]

Does anyone know what time the new timetable is released today?

Looks like the plan has changed:
http://m.thedailymash.co.uk/news/so...imetable-with-avant-garde-poem-20160704110166

 

[beorhthelm]

they are up on Southern.

 

[The Albion Roar]

Mick Cash on now.

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/69dab8ef-e65d-4713-8ccf-98954e7345a1

 

[Hotchilidog]

A cursory glance at the new timetable seems to show replacement bus service from Seaford to Lewes and no trains. Not gone through the whole thing yet, but surely this cannot be allowed. Completely unacceptable.

 

[Carrot Cruncher]

So as expected there are no trains between Brighton and Southampton. The biggest pisstake is that the only Coastway West trains (from Portsmouth) leave Barnham 10 mins before the Southampton ones arrive. There's **** all running, how ****ing difficult would it be to tie it in?

F***ing Bunglec***s.

 

[The Albion Roar]

Charles Horton and Dyan Crowther up now.

Expect them to have their tummies tickled by the committee.

 

[DFL JCL]

The key point is that the train cancellations have gone up totally disproportionately to the increase in sickness.

 

[The Albion Roar]

The key point is that the train cancellations have gone up totally disproportionately to the increase in sickness.

Quite. Daily average sickness has gone from 21 to 36.

Train cancellations have gone from a daily average of 28 to 244.

 

[DFL JCL]

From what i can tell the industrial dispute is a tiny fraction of the problem with Southern, yet the public perception doesn't reflect that.

 

[Deadly Danson]

Why the hell are they banging on about driver shortages only on Thameslink? Most of the current problems are with Southern - Govia ran the franchise before this franchise and it was THEM who deliberately ran down the numbers of drivers and THEY are directly responsible for the shortfall. They keep talking like they are brand new to Southern and it was some other company who created the problem.

 

[ManOfSussex]

A cursory glance at the new timetable seems to show replacement bus service from Seaford to Lewes and no trains. Not gone through the whole thing yet, but surely this cannot be allowed. Completely unacceptable.

Which is what I would conclude from my cursory glance. Most Brighton to Ashford International trains and vice versa appear to now call at Falmer too.

 

[The Albion Roar]

Charles Horton: "There isn't a ban on rest day working - there never has been a ban on rest day working."

Really? That's in flat contradiction to a previous statement from GTR.

 

[DFL JCL]

so they have loads of problems with drivers, meanwhile they aren't prepared to acquiesce on a minor issue like DOO which is adding to the disruption. Perhaps the DOO issue is convenient for Southern to blame all of the other issues on.

 

[Deadly Danson]

I don't know what's more depressing - the unimpressive performance from Mick Cash, the useless off point questions or the slimy deflective answers from GTR.
And did I just hear correctly Dyan Crowther say that working Saturdays is optional for me? How wonderful - I'll get to go to every Albion game this season now. Blatant lie.

 

[DFL JCL]

The guy with the southern pass. His tone with Southern is totally different to the union, far less confrontational.

 

[The Albion Roar]

The new timetable isn't in agreement with DfT, nor the Unions, nor the rail regulator. In other words, SASTA have done this unilaterally.

Mick Cash said he'd got an agreement from GTR for 490 conductors. Charles Horton said they'd agreed 440. Unchallenged by the committee so far.

 

[Gazwag]

Which is what I would conclude from my cursory glance. Most Brighton to Ashford International trains and vice versa appear to now call at Falmer too.

With the exception of course of the one that would be most important on evening match days the 18.33 from Lewes which is conveniently permanently cancelled.

 

[Steve in Japan]

GTR are getting away very lightly, nobody is really challenging them on "staff shortages" or the cancellation that have occurred when staff have been waiting.

The detail is all well and good, but the bottom line is that they are failing to deliver and should be booted out. As should Claire Perry for defending them.

 

[Deadly Danson]

GTR are getting away very lightly, nobody is really challenging them on "staff shortages" or the cancellation that have occurred when staff have been waiting.

The detail is all well and good, but the bottom line is that they are failing to deliver and should be booted out. As should Claire Perry for defending them.

Very much so. I wish train drivers and guards could have grilled them rather than uneducated (on this matter) MPs - they wouldn't have got away with deflection and we could have pinned them down. The importance of having a guard safely dispatch a train has barely been mentioned.