Southern Rail STRIKE details

[albionite]

Good luck travelling home today, service is even more of a joke than normal. Only two guys working on control and no one has a clue what is going on.

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

i see a massive facility built at Three Bridges and a raft of new rolling stock that runs counter to that narrative. whatever is going on in the service front, someone is putting money in. very few are going to afford the real cost of rail travel, so somewhere someone is going to have to explain to each other and the passengers what the target objective really looks like.

A lot of the investment is down to contractual obligations that currently favour the private companies/franchises, a lot of government money that leaks out into these contracts could also be spent upgrading the networks.

Great to have nice big shinny facilities, but a load of crap if they don't help to move the paying public form A to B. Also the new trains on the Brighton to Eastbourne route were allowed to be built without toilets, shocking.

Is the new facility at Three Bridges a bunker where the CEO and his cronies hide away from the angry rail users.

 

[Stat Man]

Waste of time, railway rules and regs are a lot different from simple T&C's, the railway by laws are pretty comprehensive in back side covering

I know, but I'm giving it a go, I haven't been able to view my journey history properly online since April 12th, which is what I have been chasing for nearly eight weeks, so if it speeds that up then it will be worthwhile.

I somehow managed to get £20.00 compensation from the credit card company as they had text me asking to call them back. When I called I was advised the disputes dept. weren't there, so I complained as they hadn't put their opening hours on the text. I wasted 25 minutes on the phone, but got the equivalent of two hours pay (or two & half days train fare) for my trouble.

 

[Ernest]

I know, but I'm giving it a go, I haven't been able to view my journey history properly online since April 12th, which is what I have been chasing for nearly eight weeks, so if it speeds that up then it will be worthwhile.

I somehow managed to get £20.00 compensation from the credit card company as they had text me asking to call them back. When I called I was advised the disputes dept. weren't there, so I complained as they hadn't put their opening hours on the text. I wasted 25 minutes on the phone, but got the equivalent of two hours pay (or two & half days train fare) for my trouble.

As I pointed out earlier in the thread there are ways and means to get the better of Southern at the moment but good luck and hope you get a result

 

[yxee]

So if writing to the MP won't help, what can be done?

 

[Beach Hut]

So if writing to the MP won't help, what can be done?

Nothing, it is more a political issue that MPs have clearly decided to ignore

 

[Ernest]

So if writing to the MP won't help, what can be done?

It is the Tory party at it's finest , the elite doesn't catch trains so they can carry on knowing it doesn't affect them

 

[The Albion Roar]

So if writing to the MP won't help, what can be done?

Kyle and Lucas locally are onside.

Are you in Manchester, or back in Sussex?

 

[yxee]

Kyle and Lucas locally are onside.

Are you in Manchester, or back in Sussex?

Sussex. Hasn't been updated for a while!
But surely the aim is to persuade the other MPs that aren't helping yet?

 

[The Albion Roar]

Sussex. Hasn't been updated for a while!
But surely the aim is to persuade the other MPs that aren't helping yet?

Many Sussex MPs (and the current issue mostly affect Sussex and Surrey) attended a meeting with train managers last week.

As Caroline Lucas reported, the train companies were very evasive with their answers, and she left the meeting still wanting to know more.

http://www.carolinelucas.com/latest/failure-on-the-trains-i-meet-the-rail-bosses

Other Sussex MPs - all Tory - are equally pissed off with the service, delays and cancellations, but they are peddling the SASTA line about 'excessive number of sick days' and 'industrial action'. In short, they're not blaming SASTA.

It depends on what side of the fence you sit, but seeing as the DfT have given SASTA the green light to worsen the service (now that we've finally got to realise the nature of the contact SASTA are working under), it doesn't take a massive leap of logic to see that some MPs are being loyal to the government, rather than their constituents.

 

[Beach Hut]

It depends on what side of the fence you sit, but seeing as the DfT have given SASTA the green light to worsen the service (now that we've finally got to realise the nature of the contact SASTA are working under), it doesn't take a massive leap of logic to see that some MPs are being loyal to the government, rather than their constituents.

What green light to worsen the service or do you mean the fact you might not have a train manager per train as it becomes DOO like it is already on many trains GTR run in the northern area of this franchise ?

 

[beorhthelm]

So if writing to the MP won't help, what can be done?

we could ignore those that say they wont help and write, i know im going to. make it an issue for them, highlighting the industrial action/overtime ban connection, there must be stats to verify the performance difference due to "staff shortages/sickness" before and since the strike.

 

[Soulman]

Protest against Southern Rail to be held at Brighton Station
http://www.brightonandhovenews.org/...southern-rail-to-be-held-at-brighton-station/

 

[Ernest]

Kyle and Lucas locally are onside.

Are you in Manchester, or back in Sussex?

TBH Kyle is a waste of space , said he had got tough with the Southern management, I said I bet they laughed at him, all the time they are doing what DfT wants no MP or anyone will be able to do anything.

 

[The Albion Roar]

What green light to worsen the service or do you mean the fact you might not have a train manager per train as it becomes DOO like it is already on many trains GTR run in the northern area of this franchise ?

The Remedial Plan allows for GTR to schedule more cancellations over the next two years before improving the service.

 

[Ernest]

The Remedial Plan allows for GTR to schedule more cancellations over the next two years before improving the service.

And even more if it suits the long term goal, expect more announced soon, probably next week with all the distractions of the Referendum. It will be a good time to bury bad news

 

[Stat Man]

As I pointed out earlier in the thread there are ways and means to get the better of Southern at the moment but good luck and hope you get a result

Thanks, I'll have another LOOK through the older posts for your TIP

 

[Ernest]

The Remedial Plan allows for GTR to schedule more cancellations over the next two years before improving the service.

And even more if it suits the long term goal, expect more announced soon, probably next week with all the distractions of the Referendum. It will be a good time to bury bad news

 

[Ernest]

Thanks, I'll have another LOOK through the older posts for your TIP

Post #937

 

[Stat Man]

Post #937

Thank you, I was gonna start on page one!!