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South Africa vs English 4th Test at Centurion, (which is near) Johannesburg

















crabface

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Mar 24, 2012
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Umpires call, i really dont get it. Ball would have hit the stump so should be given as out.
 










pasty

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Umpires call, i really dont get it. Ball would have hit the stump so should be given as out.

Really bloody winds me up this "umpires call" thing.

The umpire made a decision that England felt was wrong, so they reviewed it. The review proves the umpire got it wrong, but because it was marginal, the wrong decision is not overturned. Ridiculous.
 


Titanic

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Really bloody winds me up this "umpires call" thing.

The umpire made a decision that England felt was wrong, so they reviewed it. The review proves the umpire got it wrong, but because it was marginal, the wrong decision is not overturned. Ridiculous.

It is clearly not ridiculous. The umpire was quite reasonably in some doubt about giving it out LBW, and his view was confirmed by the replay.

The reviews are there to eliminate howlers, and that was not one, it was a good decision by Kumar Dharmasena.

If anything is ridiculous, it is England wasting a review when it was quite clearly not going to be overturned.
 




pasty

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It is clearly not ridiculous. The umpire was quite reasonably in some doubt about giving it out LBW, and his view was confirmed by the replay.

The reviews are there to eliminate howlers, and that was not one, it was a good decision by Kumar Dharmasena.

If anything is ridiculous, it is England wasting a review when it was quite clearly not going to be overturned.

I get what you are saying, and I agree with you to a certain extent, especially as to Englands decision to review it as I too thought it was going down the leg side.

However, lets say for arguments sake the umpire had given the decision as out and the batsman had reviewed it. The review would have shown the exact same thing, but because the umpire had given it out, it would have stayed out. Umpires can't have it both ways. The review process showed that the ball was going to hit leg stump, albeit only just, and if the ball was going to hit leg stump, the batsman is out, irrespective of whether the umpire gave it as out or not.
 


crabface

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Mar 24, 2012
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It is clearly not ridiculous. The umpire was quite reasonably in some doubt about giving it out LBW, and his view was confirmed by the replay.

The reviews are there to eliminate howlers, and that was not one, it was a good decision by Kumar Dharmasena.

If anything is ridiculous, it is England wasting a review when it was quite clearly not going to be overturned.

But it would have hit the stumps so should be out.
 


Titanic

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I get what you are saying, and I agree with you to a certain extent, especially as to Englands decision to review it as I too thought it was going down the leg side.

However, lets say for arguments sake the umpire had given the decision as out and the batsman had reviewed it. The review would have shown the exact same thing, but because the umpire had given it out, it would have stayed out. Umpires can't have it both ways. The review process showed that the ball was going to hit leg stump, albeit only just, and if the ball was going to hit leg stump, the batsman is out, irrespective of whether the umpire gave it as out or not.

Quite rightly, in my opinion, they CAN and they DO.
 






pasty

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Cook gone.

Cook b Woakes 115 (218b 14x4 0x6) SR: 52.75

271/4

Excellent innings on debut from Cook.
 


knocky1

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Admirable innings. Great to see someone sulking on dismissal after getting a " dayboo " century.
 


Titanic

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3 wickets for 34 runs... definitely a better session for England sincer tea... and the run rate has slowed to a crawl.

It looked like it was getting away from us this afternoon, but now it looks a lot less gloomy.
 




Titanic

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and a wicket for Moeen Ali... Duminy LBW... poor shot

273-5... impressive hour from England... and the new ball due shortly.
 




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