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Sounds like we played well even if we lost.



1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
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Whilst being a commendable ethos, I hope it doesn't come back to bite us if we are relying on goal difference to stay up.

I couldn't give a toss about goal difference to be honest. It's points I'm interested in. Classic tonight was when it became obvious Dickinson was coming on. I'm sure a lot of people were thinking who out of Forster or Murray would come off ? EVERY manager we've had in recent history would have done a straight swap I'm sure.

Not Poyet ! - a couple of minutes previous to the Dickinson sub, in a break in play, he calls Bennett over and tells him what's going to happen.... something along the lines of : " Gavin is coming off in a minute, I want you as a wing back covering with your pace but pushing on as much as possible as Liam's coming on to form a three man attack...this game is there for the taking ! "

Add to that that he sees Navarro becoming less less and involved and knows that bringing Cox on running at players and delivering balls into the danger areas is going to create yet more havoc for the opposition.

Yes, we run the risk of getting caught on the break, but so f***ing what when we're already losing on the night. Give me Poyet attacking flair over dull like for like subs any day of the week :clap2:

Sod the goal difference I say. :p
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
I must have gone to a different game tonight than most on here. I thought that we completlely dominated the game after 15 minutes and that Colchester were one of the worst sides I have seen at Withdean this season. Not one bit of football in them just brute force and ignorance route one football which gave them 2 goals. I am so glad Boothroyd didnt get the managers job with us. Once McNulty came on there was only one side in the game. Murray and Forster could have each had a hattrick and we would all be shouting their praises. Dicker was his usual reliable self, Navarro had his best game for us so far, Croft was a little quiet. McNulty, Hoyte did their respective jobs efficiently and after the first 10 mins Tunnicliffe and Ellphick both at fault for the 2 goals got it together and played quite well. Why do we have to give a side a 2 goal lead before we start to play. Prestozan had very little to do and dealt with the crosses well. Their star man without doubt was their keeper who will never experience such good luck ever again.

Finally a bit of sense on this board, we did play very well, we deserved something out of the game and had we won then their manager would be saying that we derserved the win because of our preformance

It seems to me that some people can't accept that this is a sport where a team can preform well and still lose, they base their opinion completely on the result and nothing else which is unfair.

Their secong goal came when we were down to 10 men after El-Abd went off and before McNulty came on, neither goal was down to bad defending, teams can score without against a good defensive side too or must it always be their rubbish too?.

If we were mid table or higher and we played like we did defensively today, there wouldn't be this obsessive nonsense about bad defending. What we do have is a rapidly improving defensive unit helped by having a real goalkeeper rather than Smith playing

Have patience, results will come and we will climb the table
 


Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
Well we played well after we had gone 2 - 0 down and Colchester went onto the back foot.

No point playing all the football once you have gone 2-0 down and the game is all but lost.

Murray and Forster were crap tonight.
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
To be fair, it doesn't really matter. The facts are that we are have not improved on our points to games ratio since Slade left, and we are still making the same mistakes as we were under Slade.

Progress = points, whether you went to the game or not.

In fairness Gus has had a pretty tough run of games since he took over and if you look at his overall record in all comps it's played 8 won 4 lost 4 so he's got a 50% win ratio at the moment and the 4 games he's lost have been against the top 4 teams in our division. Slade manged 3 wins in 17 games in all comps without having to meet a top 4 team so the way I see it we are making progress under Gus even if it does'nt show at the moment with points on the board.
 


Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
In fairness Gus has had a pretty tough run of games since he took over and if you look at his overall record in all comps it's played 8 won 4 lost 4 so he's got a 50% win ratio at the moment and the 4 games he's lost have been against the top 4 teams in our division. Slade manged 3 wins in 17 games in all comps without having to meet a top 4 team so the way I see it we are making progress under Gus even if it does'nt show at the moment with points on the board.

Two of the wins were against the bottom team in the league and a team in non league football.

Personally I think Gus will do us ok once he has brought his own players into the club.

What we have at the moment is a team of passengers.
 








Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
Indeed. They seem to play well together, rarely. They were on different wavelengths, Forster did not look his spritely self and Murray had the first touch of a...surprise sexual predator.

Murray is either on fire or a total waste of space, he will be great one game any crap for the next half a dozen. Gives stupid free kicks away.

Forster really should be coming on for the last 30 minutes at his age, Im sure if he had that chance he put over near the end of the game in the first half he would have put it away.

Would rather see Dickinson start with either Murray or Forster and one of them coming on in he second half.

Would like to see Davies on the right with Bennett on the left.
 




Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
If that is true I hope that they are both crap for every other game this season but have a little more luck. In which case we will do well in the 2nd half of the season because they both played well this evening without getting the run of the green.

No they missed easy chances which they should have done better with.

Murray was Pony.

IMHO
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
Two of the wins were against the bottom team in the league and a team in non league football.

You can never take a win against a non league team in the fa cup for granted as Leeds found out and who was the bottom team in the league we beat twice?
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
Well we played well after we had gone 2 - 0 down and Colchester went onto the back foot.

No point playing all the football once you have gone 2-0 down and the game is all but lost.

Murray and Forster were crap tonight.

Since when is a game decided in the first 15 minutes? 2 -0 is not game over, teams can and do turn this score line around, stop being so defeatist.

We have been 3 - 0 in the past with only a few minutes left to go and finished 3 - 3 having missed a chance to win it 4 -3 so 2 - 0 with 75 minutes + injury time is far from game over.

Christ, we played well and could have won tonight.
 




sam86

Moderator
Feb 18, 2009
9,947
It was my 8 year old daughters first ever football match.
She called it the most exciting day of her life. (Perhaps a little bit of an overstatement)
She is gutted that we lost.
She said, "We had more nearlys than Colchester, we should have had another goal. It's not fair".

She want's to go again.

f*** what the rest of you say, that's what football is about.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Murray is either on fire or a total waste of space, he will be great one game any crap for the next half a dozen. Gives stupid free kicks away.

Forster really should be coming on for the last 30 minutes at his age, Im sure if he had that chance he put over near the end of the game in the first half he would have put it away.

Would rather see Dickinson start with either Murray or Forster and one of them coming on in he second half.

Would like to see Davies on the right with Bennett on the left.

I cannot believe that anybody could actually believe what you are saying. Murray had one of his best games for us other than the fact the ball didnt go in the net. He chased every ball that was aimed at the front two and was a constant thorn in their side. As regards Forster I would do the exact opposite that is start with him and tell him to run himself out in 60 mins and if we had somebody fractionally as good bring them on. Unfortunately we do not have anybody that good. Dickenson is the best and nearest but is still way behind him and Davies doesnt even come into the running
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
No they missed easy chances which they should have done better with.

Murray was Pony.

IMHO

No he wasn't, just because someone doesn't score doesn't mean that they played poorly.

Murray was unlucky to see his shot come back off the inside of the post after making space for his shot, and his all round play was good imo.

So if a striker is anonymous for 90 minutes, doesn't put any real effort in etc, but scores a goal, would that make them good? How about if a player runs his socks off and makes a nuisense of himself but doesn't score, is he shit? cos i get the impression that you base performance purely on stats rather than all round play.

If these two were to score every chance they get as you think that they should, they certainly wouldn't be division 1 players, but playing in the Premier league. A very good return for a striker is a goal every other game not every other shot as you seem to be implying that they should be
 




Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
Since when is a game decided in the first 15 minutes? 2 -0 is not game over, teams can and do turn this score line around, stop being so defeatist.

We have been 3 - 0 in the past with only a few minutes left to go and finished 3 - 3 having missed a chance to win it 4 -3 so 2 - 0 with 75 minutes + injury time is far from game over.

Christ, we played well and could have won tonight.

No we were crap for 15 minutes and lost the game.

Of course we had a go and thats what anyone would expect and we were at home.

They did a perfect number on us as an away team.

If's and but's dont win games.

If we had played like we did from the start yes we may have won but we did not.

Anyway roll on the next game and an Albion win!!
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
For many reasons, that was my first game for some time. The first this season, and the first under Poyet, (unless you count the So'ton game on the TV).

I agree with a number of the posts above. The first 15 minutes, we couldn't get a kick. This is exactly what we did to Southampton. Colchester did it to us.

El Abd was injured and off the pitch when the first goal went in. He would have been the one to close their player down. Goalie didn't do bad. I was right behind the goal in the family stand. It cane through a crowd, he saw it late, and still got down to get a fingertip to it.
We still had only 10 men on the pitch for the second goal.

Once we were back up to full strength, we started to make an impression on the game. McNulty looks class, covers a lot of ground, and doesn't waste many passes.
Bennet looks exciting but could not quite deliver the end product?
Elphic had a storming game, Defending everything that came his way, in many ways coming forward and filling the "stopper" role in midfield.
After they had settled down, the defence looked pretty solid to me. No worse than the Colchester defence.
Brighton played as a team, managed to find each other with passes, mostly kept the ball on the deck, and didn't look at all bad. Everyone played their part. Singling out any player for praise or opprobrium would be unfair.

For the first 15 minutes we looked like a team down on confidence, waiting for the sucker punch.
For the last 15 minutes of the first half, we were the best team.
For almost the whole of the second half, we were the best team.

Colchester are lying 4th, and for most of the match, we matched them in every position on the pitch.
With a bit more composure, we would have won.
On the basis of this match, and the Southampton match on TV, I'm astounded that we are not higher up the table.

It was my 8 year old daughters first ever football match.
She called it the most exciting day of her life. (Perhaps a little bit of an overstatement)
She is gutted that we lost.
She said, "We had more nearlys than Colchester, we should have had another goal. It's not fair".

She want's to go again.

Great post
 


cheesy77

Well-known member
Feb 18, 2009
468
how many times have we played well this season and still lost the game, particularly at home? walsall, southend, and tonight spring to mind. its my first year as a sth and i'm getting seriously frustrated. it was ok 'taking the positives' from the first 4-5 home defeats, but now we are rapidly approaching double figures, which is simply appalling.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,348
From the sounds of it, we played well. May be if we get a couple of defenders in January things might change, those 2 goals did us.

Little bit dissapointed but I do feel we are slowly making positive steps forward. We did not play like this under Slade.

Maybe if we hadn't played with ten men in the five minutes leading up to the second goal then things would have been different. I mean, did Poyet just FORGET to put on a sub for El-Abd or what? ???
 




BUTTERBALL

East Stand Brighton Boyz
Jul 31, 2003
10,283
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I must have gone to a different game tonight than most on here. I thought that we completlely dominated the game after 15 minutes and that Colchester were one of the worst sides I have seen at Withdean this season. Not one bit of football in them just brute force and ignorance route one football which gave them 2 goals. I am so glad Boothroyd didnt get the managers job with us. Once McNulty came on there was only one side in the game. Murray and Forster could have each had a hattrick and we would all be shouting their praises. Dicker was his usual reliable self, Navarro had his best game for us so far, Croft was a little quiet. McNulty, Hoyte did their respective jobs efficiently and after the first 10 mins Tunnicliffe and Ellphick both at fault for the 2 goals got it together and played quite well. Why do we have to give a side a 2 goal lead before we start to play. Prestozan had very little to do and dealt with the crosses well. Their star man without doubt was their keeper who will never experience such good luck ever again.

Sums it all up for me. I don't think I have ever witnessed such an entertaining defeat that left me much more positive than negative when leaving. Team deserved the ovation at the end.
 


Hiney

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
19,396
Penrose, Cornwall
The first 20 minutes were horrific and I thought we were in for a long night.

Once we found out feet though, it was really encouraging. McNulty is a class act and really gave us extra options down the left. I thought Elphick and Tunnicliffe were excellent, especially in the 2nd half and Dicker worked really hard in midfield.

Murray surprised me. To hear people on here, you'd think he wanders around the pitch in his slippers smoking a cigar, but he worked really hard last night.

Shit result but good performance.
 


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