Some Polish bloke just knocked on my door asking for money

[Cian]

*sighs*

If you actually read the immigration policy with regard to many of these European nations, you'd know they generally can't claim benefits within a certain period of their arrival.

If they're from the EU-25 they can from day 1 here - not the EU-27 though. That said, its not like I don't tell Bulgarian or Romanian beggers where to go too.

 

[clapham_gull]

Has happened to me a few times in London.

The line is usually "I'm your neighbour" and I need money for the electricity meter.

Or - my husband has had a heart attack and I need money for a taxi to get to the hospital.

One positive thing is that on all occasions the cheeky buggers have been good "honest" English citizens.

God knows what would happen if the immigrants round here gave up their jobs and started to do it.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Not wishing to call your story into question, but five years ago all these stories were about gypsies. Interesting how Poles are the new bogeymen.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Not wishing to call your story into question, but five years ago all these stories were about gypsies. Interesting how Poles are the new bogeymen.

...over the years there's always been someone else to blame, Voroshilov.

It never fails to entertain me that many of the people who moan the most about foreigners, be they Poles, Lithuanians, Slovaks, Arabs, Pakistanis, whoever, sponging off the system and stealing British jobs, are the ones who spend their days in the bookies or on the sofa, watching Jeremy Kyle and drinking Special Brew, while the Poles are out doing the jobs they'd never 'lower' themselves to, probably for minimum wage.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

....or less.

 

[British Bulldog]

....or less.

Anybody who works for less than the minimum wage BOF is either a mug, illegal or just undermining the right's of workers in this country.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Anybody who works for less than the minimum wage BOF is either a mug, illegal or just undermining the right's of workers in this country.

True, but I suspect it happens a lot and many are left with little choice.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Who cares where they're from, just tell them to f*** off and be done with it

 

[adrian29uk]

...over the years there's always been someone else to blame, Voroshilov.

It never fails to entertain me that many of the people who moan the most about foreigners, be they Poles, Lithuanians, Slovaks, Arabs, Pakistanis, whoever, sponging off the system and stealing British jobs, are the ones who spend their days in the bookies or on the sofa, watching Jeremy Kyle and drinking Special Brew, while the Poles are out doing the jobs they'd never 'lower' themselves to, probably for minimum wage.

Fine, but I wonder how many old people got conned by this bloke tonight or felt awkward so gave him money just to get rid of him.

 

[Easy 10]

Well I'd probably have lent him £50

 

[British Bulldog]

Who cares where they're from, just tell them to f*** off and be done with it

Just as I do with anybody turning up at my door wanting money for anything.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Well I'd probably have lent him £50

That is an improvement on £60. A step in the right direction!

 

[Easy 10]

That is an improvement on £60. A step in the right direction!

The counselling is working

HURRAH !

 

[Questions]

...over the years there's always been someone else to blame, Voroshilov.

It never fails to entertain me that many of the people who moan the most about foreigners, be they Poles, Lithuanians, Slovaks, Arabs, Pakistanis, whoever, sponging off the system and stealing British jobs, are the ones who spend their days in the bookies or on the sofa, watching Jeremy Kyle and drinking Special Brew, while the Poles are out doing the jobs they'd never 'lower' themselves to, probably for minimum wage.

The only people I have heard moaning about foriegn workers are British tradesmen.

If Polish policemen came over hear and started working for less than half of what you get and subsquently you had to accept much lower wages just to keep in work ...what might your opinion be then.

Not saying I know if thats wholly right but thats what I hear.

 

[British Bulldog]

True, but I suspect it happens a lot and many are left with little choice.

Why would a foriegner come to this country to work for less than the minimum wage BOF? What would be the point unless they should'nt be here in the first place or they're doing it cash in hand while claiming benefits? It's all very well feeling sorry for them but it's undermining the rights of genuine workers in this country.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Fine, but I wonder how many old people got conned by this bloke tonight or felt awkward so gave him money just to get rid of him.

Yes, but the fact that he's Polish is irrelevant.

The fact that he's probably a complete shyster is what's important, and these people need dealing with, regardless of their background.

There are (unfortunately) plenty of toerags going round at the moment telling little old ladies to turn their taps on upstairs and then making off with their life savings the second they turn their backs. Not many of the ones I see mention foreign accents.

Questions- what I was saying is that an awful lot of the migrant workers we have in this country are doing the jobs that British people refuse to do. In places like Crawley, where unemployment is extremely low, the employers actually have problems filling the lesser paid jobs- there are jobs available, but local people won't do them, therefore it tends to be the economic migrants who take them.

Gatwick airport and the surrounding hotels would probably collapse without foreign workers!

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Why would a foriegner come to this country to work for less than the minimum wage BOF? What would be the point unless they should'nt be here in the first place or they're doing it cash in hand while claiming benefits? It's all very well feeling sorry for them but it's undermining the rights of genuine workers in this country.

I don't know. But I would imagine there are a great deal more opportunities in Britain, far more so than their home country.

I would imagine that people burn bridges and head for London or wherever with genuine hopes and plans, that will ultimately fail.

I agree that it does undermime the rights of genuine workers, but are the immigrants, themselves to blame? What about the employers?

I am not trying to justify their position, but trying to understand it.

 

[British Bulldog]

Yes, but the fact that he's Polish is irrelevant.

There are (unfortunately) plenty of toerags going round at the moment telling little old ladies to turn their taps on upstairs and then making off with their life savings the second they turn their backs. Not many of the ones I see mention foreign accents.

So if the police get a tip off that there's a polish bloke trying to con people it's of no relevence then Edna? I thought the police looked for any kind of description to help with their enquiries? Or do you just dismiss it if it involves a foriegner because that would be seen as racist? Just interested like!

 

[Lady Whistledown]

So if the police get a tip off that there's a polish bloke trying to con people it's of no relevence then Edna? I thought the police looked for any kind of description to help with their enquiries? Or do you just dismiss it if it involves a foriegner because that would be seen as racist? Just interested like!

Of course it's relevant in terms of finding him if he's done something wrong! Clearly the police would be seeking a Polish male for that particular offence.

However, I meant- and I'd have thought this was obvious- that it's not relevant in the context of this thread, which (I felt) was rather implying that this particular gentleman's nationality was somehow connected to his actions.

Personally I don't think it is, there are plenty of unpleasant people in this world, of all backgrounds.

 

[British Bulldog]

I don't know. But I would imagine there are a great deal more opportunities in Britain, far more so than their home country.

I would imagine that people burn bridges and head for London or wherever with genuine hopes and plans, that will ultimately fail.

I agree that it does undermime the rights of genuine workers, but are the immigrants, themselves to blame? What about the employers?

I am not trying to justify their position, but trying to understand it.

For a start BOF I think Britian is seen as a soft touch on imigration and thats why they all head here and thats why there's an estimated 1 million illegals who are unaccounted for.

On the subject of the minimum wage the employers who pay less than that will do so if they can get away with it, But they'll only get away with it if people accept being paid that and a lot of british workers quite rightly refuse. There's been a lot of hard work done by unions in this country to have a minimum wage and to keep increasing it, But there's a lot of imigrants flooding the country at the moment who will quite happily undermine those rights. I'm not using this thread for a racist platform but a lot of people will turn a blind eye to whats going on unless it affects them directly, And over a period of time more and more people will be affected by foriegn workers willing to undercut them on wages. It's wrong BOF.