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So what is Dean Wilkins thinking?



goldstone

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Jul 5, 2003
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Seeing the shambles that this season has turned into, he must find it even harder to understand his dismissal.

His first season as manager and he turns a team with mid-table expectations into near playoff contenders. His team play attractive football and he has the fans onside. Sure, maybe he has some man-management issues (but who's perfect), but overall a pretty satisfying season.

Then, WHAM! You're fired.

Must have been very difficult to accept at the time. Watching the way this season has deteriorated from 1st place for a short while after the win at Southend all the way down to the relegation zone, must make him wonder what the hell the world of football is all about. And to see his attractive style of football dropped for hoof-ball.

It would be interesting to know what his thoughts are at this time.

I have supported Dick Knight. I undertood (or I thought I did) why he wanted a bigger-name manager to take us towards Falmer. But did he look closely enough at Micky's track-record in the period after he left Brighton? He had hardly set the world alight. We all make mistakes, but did Dick act quickly enough when it became obvious that the wheels were coming off the Micky Adams band-wagon? Action two months earlier would have given a new manager time to mount a rescue mission. I doubt Slade has enough time.

And looking at how this season has developed has got me thinking how much we miss the type of solid and professional midfielder we had in Richard Carpenter. Hammond was probably the closest we have come to a genuine replacement and we let him slip away. Wilkins' fault? Depends who you believe.

A few early morning thoughts on things Albion.
 






Chesney Christ

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Sep 3, 2003
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Seeing the shambles that this season has turned into, he must find it even harder to understand his dismissal.

His first season as manager and he turns a team with mid-table expectations into near playoff contenders. His team play attractive football and he has the fans onside. Sure, maybe he has some man-management issues (but who's perfect), but overall a pretty satisfying season.

Then, WHAM! You're fired.

Must have been very difficult to accept at the time. Watching the way this season has deteriorated from 1st place for a short while after the win at Southend all the way down to the relegation zone, must make him wonder what the hell the world of football is all about. And to see his attractive style of football dropped for hoof-ball.

It would be interesting to know what his thoughts are at this time.

I have supported Dick Knight. I undertood (or I thought I did) why he wanted a bigger-name manager to take us towards Falmer. But did he look closely enough at Micky's track-record in the period after he left Brighton? He had hardly set the world alight. We all make mistakes, but did Dick act quickly enough when it became obvious that the wheels were coming off the Micky Adams band-wagon? Action two months earlier would have given a new manager time to mount a rescue mission. I doubt Slade has enough time.

And looking at how this season has developed has got me thinking how much we miss the type of solid and professional midfielder we had in Richard Carpenter. Hammond was probably the closest we have come to a genuine replacement and we let him slip away. Wilkins' fault? Depends who you believe.

A few early morning thoughts on things Albion.

Good summation. There are still some CRETINS on here who justify his sacking because of the "man-management" horseshit. Its tedious and idiotic. If his man-management was so bad how the f*** did we finish 7th last year? In fact, f*** it, even if his man-management was awful it doesn't matter because we finished SEVENTH. That is FIFTEEN places higher than we currently reside. It is lucky morale is so sky-high this year, or the players would be getting really depressed about us getting relegated.
 


itszamora

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Sep 21, 2003
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Good summation. There are still some CRETINS on here who justify his sacking because of the "man-management" horseshit. Its tedious and idiotic. If his man-management was so bad how the f*** did we finish 7th last year? In fact, f*** it, even if his man-management was awful it doesn't matter because we finished SEVENTH. That is FIFTEEN places higher than we currently reside. It is lucky morale is so sky-high this year, or the players would be getting really depressed about us getting relegated.

Exactly, most managers are judged on results but some seem to forget this when it comes to Wilkins because it doesn't fit their agenda. I couldn't give a f*** what's happening behind the scenes if the team is winning. Players who he let leave have moaned a bit about him - that never happens anywhere else does it?!
 






Shinbreath

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If the team was winning it couldn't have been that bad in the dressing room.

Man management ? I don't believe that for one minute either !!!
 


itszamora

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If the team was winning it couldn't have been that bad in the dressing room.

Man management ? I don't believe that for one minute either !!!

Even if the entire team were at each other's throats and bringing a variety of weapons to training to confront each other with, I really wouldn't care if we ended up with 3 points at the end of the week. People in every job are paid to perform, not to get on with everyone they work with. Football is no different.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Good summation. There are still some CRETINS on here who justify his sacking because of the "man-management" horseshit. Its tedious and idiotic. If his man-management was so bad how the f*** did we finish 7th last year? In fact, f*** it, even if his man-management was awful it doesn't matter because we finished SEVENTH. That is FIFTEEN places higher than we currently reside. It is lucky morale is so sky-high this year, or the players would be getting really depressed about us getting relegated.

Apart from the late arrival of Murray he was also working on a budget that must have been 1/10th of what Adams managed to squander on players who appear not to have any team spirit or character. Makes last season's achievements even more impressive.
 






Chesney Christ

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Apart from the late arrival of Murray he was also working on a budget that must have been 1/10th of what Adams managed to squander on players who appear not to have any team spirit or character. Makes last season's achievements even more impressive.

Murray's move was only financed by the sale of Hammond anyway.....
 


Twinkle Toes

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Apr 4, 2008
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I personally don't give a flying wotsit what he's thinking. He's not involved any more - & it's down to the players to get their sorry arses onto the pitch on Saturday & show some pride in themselves; their profession; the club they allegedly play for; & most of all us long-suffering supporters who give-it-our-all for The Albion - & too often end up looking & feeling like complete mugs. :mad:
 




The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Dean Wilkins is probably quite upset at the way things are turning out.

But that's something to consider while he reflects on his at-times appalling behaviour while he had a chance to do something about it. For me, he is the architect of his own downfall.

Sure, Dick could have handled the situation a whole lot better, and no-one really comes out of the whole sorry affair with a too much credit, but for anyone thinking Wilkins didn't deserve to be sacked - think again.
 




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I personally don't give a flying wotsit what he's thinking. He's not involved any more - & it's down to the players to get their sorry arses onto the pitch on Saturday & show some pride in themselves; their profession; the club they allegedly play for; & most of all us long-suffering supporters who give-it-our-all for The Albion - & too often end up looking & feeling like complete mugs. :mad:

:thumbsup:
 




TonyW

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Feb 11, 2004
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Good summation. There are still some CRETINS on here who justify his sacking because of the "man-management" horseshit. Its tedious and idiotic. If his man-management was so bad how the f*** did we finish 7th last year? In fact, f*** it, even if his man-management was awful it doesn't matter because we finished SEVENTH. That is FIFTEEN places higher than we currently reside. It is lucky morale is so sky-high this year, or the players would be getting really depressed about us getting relegated.

That's a crock of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually agree that Wikins was doing a fantastic job football-wise. But several players have gone on record stating that he was a complete knob, making his dismissal the right decision.

Had he decided to change his attitude, then we could have been in a win-win situation.
He didn't, so unfortunately, he had to go.
 




itszamora

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Sep 21, 2003
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That's a crock of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually agree that Wikins was doing a fantastic job football-wise. But several players have gone on record stating that he was a complete knob, making his dismissal the right decision.

Had he decided to change his attitude, then we could have been in a win-win situation.
He didn't, so unfortunately, he had to go.

Yeah, several players who he got rid of! TLO - please enlighten us as to what Wilkins' 'disgraceful' behaviour was then, and why that means he deserved the sack. Also please tell us where the Murray money came from, bearing in mind we had sold a player for almost as much a few days (?) beforehand. I know you claim not to be in any 'inner circle' but postings such as this one really don't back you up very well, and frankly you come across at times as one of those know-it-all superfans.
 


Shinbreath

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Nov 1, 2008
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That's a crock of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually agree that Wikins was doing a fantastic job football-wise. But several players have gone on record stating that he was a complete knob, making his dismissal the right decision.

Had he decided to change his attitude, then we could have been in a win-win situation.
He didn't, so unfortunately, he had to go.

It would be interesting to know what managers at, for instance, Premiership level could also be regarded as knobs. There must be a few. But if they are winning games and therefore bringing the revenue in which, lets face is the ultimate goal for any board of directors, then why the sacking.

I know the subject is wearing a bit thin now but its a prominent part of the clubs recent history which wont be ignored for a while to come..
 




Icy Gull

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! TLO - please enlighten us as to what Wilkins' 'disgraceful' behaviour was then, and why that means he deserved the sack.


I'd like to know as well, all I've heard is insinuation and the fact that he backed the players wage demands to the board. That does not sound like a sackable offence to me. Was it because he allegedly had a type of nervous breakdown? I'd love to know what the disgraceful behaviour was as there has been a besmirching of Wilkins name from quite a few people on here with a "tap on the nose" seeming to be all that needs to be said with nothing to back it up.

I doubt, given our finishing position, that he lost the majority of the players either.
 
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