Highfields Seagull
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tedebear said:
You could apply that logic to anything. Then nothing would change, ever!
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You could apply that logic to anything. Then nothing would change, ever!
Highfields Seagull said:
Not really - I find your attitude selfish....
If i didn't want smoke in my clothes/face I'd go to one of a few other places in Shoreham where I can drink without it?? Thats being tolerant of other peoples choices - you are assuming that everyone wants the change?
Highfields Seagull
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I haven't even made up my mind as to which side of the argument I fall on.
However, I'm not convinced by arguments that are essentially "it's always been that way so we shouldn't change".
However, I'm not convinced by arguments that are essentially "it's always been that way so we shouldn't change".
Highfields Seagull
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Withnail said:
Alcohol does cause death and cancer; but ME drinking alcohol does not give YOU cancer.
Highfields Seagull
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Withnail said:
The problem is TWATS drinking alcolhol though. Most people I know can get throughly drunk and be of no harm to anyone.
The answer is to ban TWATS from the world
Artois said:
again youre assuming that everyone wants to remove the health risks, and also assuming that you have the right to demand that a private pub not owned by you changes its policy re allowing people in (ie non smokers) ..... I agree with you but my way of dealing with it is to go somewhere else - not attempt to change an institution thats been around since before our grandparents...
If I made my local pub become smoke free - then about 5 or 6 old veterans (one who flew spitfires) would have no where to go - they all smoke pipes and are around 80ish (to hazard a guess) and they would probably sit at home and waste away...shame really jsut because they chose to smoke...
Eddie the Seagull
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The bottom line is that common sense must prevail. I believe the decision should lay at the feet of the landlord. Then the people, not the government, can decide which pub to drink in.
I am uncomfortable with this increasingly nanny state we seem to be developing.
Next we'll all be micro-chipped so the government knows exactly where we are, what substances we take, our bowel movements etc. etc.
I am uncomfortable with this increasingly nanny state we seem to be developing.
Next we'll all be micro-chipped so the government knows exactly where we are, what substances we take, our bowel movements etc. etc.
I'm not so sure - but I'm not willing to take away some peoples choice to do what they want however bad that choice may be - I believe that is dictating what people can and can't do - I chose to deal with it by not going there if I don't want my health to suffer...
Eddie the Seagull said:
Completely agree - exactly what I was attempting (obviously poorly) to say....