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[Politics] Sir Keir Starmer’s route to Number 10



Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea
That's an interesting statement.

May was PM.

Then Johnson.

Why did they both deliberately screw up Brexit?

What was the purpose?

How should Brexit have been don so it was a success?

I genuinely look forward to a couple of paragraphs explaining your take :thumbsup:
I'm sure, as an educated man, you are fully aware that both May and Johnson were Remainers.
 










rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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Plenty. To get Brexit sorted out properly, slim chance that reform can replace the tories in one electoral cycle but I see no difference between the parties so have nothing to lose..
what is it about brexit that the reform party will sort out?
 












Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea










pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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Yet every move, knocked back by 'free wi-fi' Jezza and 'Me, Me, Me' Bercow was applauded by the onlookers.

Bravo mes Amis, Bravo.
Bercow and Corbyn weren't in charge of the negotiations though, a 'Leaver' was, we got what a Leaver negotiated.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Ignoring the poor "So" introduction, I'd venture that leaving is pretty straightforward.
Leaving is pretty straightforward. Leaving in a way which didn’t screw the country over wasn’t.

The jumping off a cliff is the easiest thing in the world. It’s the landing that’s the problem.
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,168
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Yet every move, knocked back by 'free wi-fi' Jezza and 'Me, Me, Me' Bercow was applauded by the onlookers.

Bravo mes Amis, Bravo.
Frost was in charge of negotiations from January 2020 until December 2021, when Johnson was PM with an 80 seat majority as a result of a meaningless 3 word soundbite of 'Get Brexit Done.' Jeremy Corbyn was replaced as Labour leader in April 2020. John Bercow stood down as Speaker in November 2019.

Despite you not having a clue what you're talking about again, it's really nice you're still trying to join in.
 
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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uffern
I'm sure, as an educated man, you are fully aware that both May and Johnson were Remainers.
Eh? The bloke who led the Leave campaign

Not to mention all the Brexit Secretaries who were in charge of the Brexit negotiations: Davis, Raab, Barclay - all leavers.
 
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Rdodge30

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Dec 30, 2022
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Take your Brexit boredom back to Tory meltdown incoming 🙄
 




worthingweird

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Mar 8, 2023
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Frost was in charge of negotiations from January 2020 until December 2021, when Johnson was PM with an 80 seat majority as a result of a meaningless 3 word soundbite of 'Get Brexit Done.' Jeremy Corbyn was replaced as Labour leader in April 2020. John Bercow stood down as Speaker in November 2019.

Despite you not having a clue what you're talking about again, it's really nice you're still trying to join in.
Would that be Boris Johnson...
 


Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
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That's an interesting statement.

May was PM.

Then Johnson.

Why did they both deliberately screw up Brexit?

What was the purpose?

How should Brexit have been done so it was a success?

I genuinely look forward to a couple of paragraphs explaining your take :thumbsup:

I will give you a slightly longer one to PoTG's reply.

Brexit was a democratic, skewed to the working class revolution to overthrow the Establishment(EU). The sort of things leftists used to say they love.

The problem was that it was not a proper revolution where we take out the tyrants and shoot them, they remained in power. The term I believe is hold overs who are prone to sabotage, leaks and generally not knowing what its about.

What would I do different?

Well for starters leave the ECHR then get immigration down ala Australia. This would collapse the housing market in time making housing affordable, living standards and quality of life to rise as demographics kick in.


The losers would be landlords, property speculators and those sinking to much money in assets as a form of investment rather than in training and business.

Poor landlords, pass the Kleenex I think I'm going to cry.
 


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