Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Red shite tinted reason, more like!
I can't disagree with this really.
Red shite tinted reason, more like!
Some little tinker has been busy already on a local billboard
Considering the state of the national side, and Capello's desperate attempts to get Scholes to come out of retirement, then I would suggest no other manager has nurtured any world class England talent either! I tell you what though, despite being the biggest club (your words), on a given weekend they'll have more players from their youth system than most other clubs in the Premiership. Whether you consider Brown, O'Shea, Fletcher, Gibson, Evans, plus Giggs, Scholes, Neville, as world class is up to you, but they came through the system and they are regularly in that team, plus the likes of imported youth like Anderson, Rafael, Fabio, Macheda. There are only a handful of top flight clubs that can say that I'm afraid. We can MU bash all we want, but they've always given young players a chance, whether they are good enough is another matter, but the chance is there. When you think about it, it's been pretty tough to have one set of youngsters that included Beckham, Scholes, Butt, Nevilles, Giggs etc. and then shift them out of the team for a new set!!!
Biggest club in the world is what we've heard for years from Salford. Not my words - Sky telly and Man U's own PR machine. Are you now claiming that they're punching above their weight?
Right - so since the riches of the 1993 youth cup winning side we've had come through the ranks - Fletcher, O'Shea and Brown. Absolutely no-one else. No one at all of any note except those three also-ran players. Sorry, but I do chuckle when I see Fletcher being so vociferously defended here by the closet reds.
Yep - cheque book manager. Don't get me wrong - Fergie's done brilliantly with this formula: Great bunch of kids in '93 and then virtually unlimited funds to buy whoever they want. I'm not denying his success just putting paid to the lie that he nurtures talent.
Ta ra!
He had unlimited funds at Aberdeen in comparison to Rangers and Celtic didn't he!
And if he ever had the talent he lost it at least 15 years ago. Don't blame him. Why bother with youth when you can buy whoever you want. Face it mate, you can dress it up all you like but not one player since 1995 has come through the Man U ranks (or left for other clubs) and actually been a top international player. Not one. Every single Man U star since then has been bought.
You've replied to me how many times and we've got no further than agreeing that Fletcher was the best since that date and now we're left with the conundrum of 'is Fletcher is better than Barry or Parker'. Jeez - does that not kind of scream at you that Man U's youth system isn't the best?
Man United boss Sir Alex Ferguson: "I haven't read Wayne Rooney's statement, but we'll have a view on it tomorrow and probably put it to bed tomorrow. As I said, the door is open. We keep good players, particularly when they are that young. He wants assurances? Have I won 30 trophies or what?!"
You're a bit one track aren't you!? Try reading my posts again, I think you're getting confused. Let it lie man.
Have to say that, for me, Rooney has said all the right things and I suspect many of Man U's green and yellow army of fans will empathise with him. I do think that the end is perhaps nigh for Ferguson. No faulting what he has done in the past but it's today (and tomorrow) that count in football and the weight of debt coupled with the ageing process seem to be finally catching up.
Rooney is so right, since he signed at 18, he's been in 2 Champions League finals, winning one, he's won 3 league titles, an FA cup and 3 Carling Cups all in 6 years. It's clear that many other clubs such as ManCity have so much more to offer in that regard!!
Rooney is so right, since he signed at 18, he's been in 2 Champions League finals, winning one, he's won 3 league titles, an FA cup and 3 Carling Cups all in 6 years. It's clear that many other clubs such as ManCity have so much more to offer in that regard!!