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Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed Wayne Rooney wants to leave Manchester United.
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Scotty Mac
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with rooney gone and very little in the way of financial support, i think he would be very shrewd to call it a day with his reputation intact before a possible liverpool-esque nosedive happens
Bold Seagull
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£60 million transfer fee and £300,000 a week ?
Bargain!
Bargain!
The Spanish
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You really think Rooney's position is about MU's ambition.
rooneys team have a position, not rooney who is just sitting there staring into space like a baby looking at a mobile, thinking of prozzies and playstation games.
i feel tainted even havng an opinion on this. football has always been sleazy but this episode is revolting even by the games standards.
Igor Gurinovich?
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This..
I actually think he must have at least 1 brain amongst his entourage who have suggested that before he signs away the best years of his career to United, consider that Sir Alex will possibly be gone, followed by a period of unknown flux, yet without the finanical muscle to compete with their neighbours.. its a more feasable arguement than, Sir Alex wont talk to me i want to leave.
Why is this? City have been awash with oil money for more than two years and have won cock-all so far - not even finishing in the top 4. Teams don't generally become great in a couple of years - I know Chelsea managed it but they were a top 4 team anyway and they employed a top manager.
I can't see money alone doing it for City - no matter what silly wages they pay. It's possible that they win more than Man U in the next six years but that's only because Man U will probable win very little too.
There were rumours about this a few months ago and he denied them strenuously.
BBC Sport - Football - Sir Alex Ferguson dismisses Man Utd retirement rumours
I can't see the antics of a money-grabbing, granny-shagging bindipper is going to change his mind.
Garage_Doors
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You really think Rooney's position is about MU's ambition.
If you know different and are “in the know” then share your wisdom with us and educate us.
Bold Seagull
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I think it is far simpler than that. £200k per week vs £150k per week. There are no guarantees of trophies at any club really. Chelsea don't have the money now Roman's reigned in his spending, Arsenal don't spend, ManCity are not even in the Champions League, and no guarantee they'll be there next season either. He can't come out and say 'I'm going for more more money'? so he's played the Glazer card. Ambition, MU lost the title by one point. ManCity didn't even make top 5, Chelsea & Arsenal also failed in the Champions League. It is money.
The Spanish
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its stating the obvious really but its amazing how many people people who you think are clued up just recite the tabloid knockabout version of events as if its actually happening like that.
Football_Friends
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Bold has it nailed on for me....he's pulled out the glazier card. United lost the league by 1 point and got knocked out on away goals in the champions league when they really shouldn't have given the position they were in. Bigger players have left united and the club continues to be successful and I don't see that changing if Rooney goes. The only difference is there isn't as many big names underneath him as in the past. It's time for players like nani and berbatov to take the reigns.
It wa also interesting listening to dwight yorke last night before and after the match. He made the point that is there really anyone you would want to pay alot of money for even available?? They perhaps could have made moves for ozel and schneidder but there isn't that many top players about and the likes of ronaldo, messi etc are tied up. (anticipates cries of Bale)
It wa also interesting listening to dwight yorke last night before and after the match. He made the point that is there really anyone you would want to pay alot of money for even available?? They perhaps could have made moves for ozel and schneidder but there isn't that many top players about and the likes of ronaldo, messi etc are tied up. (anticipates cries of Bale)
You really think Rooney's position is about MU's ambition.
To a degree.
If Man Utd shared his ambition they would be willing to pay for top stars to replace those they've lost, and pay Wayne as much as he feels he deserves (or at least be willing to negotiate to something they both find acceptable).
If Man Utd win things he is then playing for the best team, and is a star player for the best team which would suit Brand Rooney very nicely.
All the while Utd are happy to play second fiddle to chelsea, and risk slipping behind City and Arsenal, Brand Rooney is losing some of its shine. His brand could survive prostitute scandals with a spin of "he's being a lad", "the only person for whom it should matter - colleen has forgiven him and he is dedicating himself to being a family man", if they can also say, "look, he's firing man utd on to the brink of another premier league title, champions league title and is helping England into the european finals".
He doesn't have that. So, if he moves somewhere else even if he isn't firing on all cylinders, if the team is making progress he will be able to repair his brand and make more money.
His ambition is to be a viable brand and make as much money as he can, and he needs the team he's playing for to be successful, and retain the promise of success in years to come. Man Utd aren't showing that potential at the moment.
Ambition is what all wrestlers talk about when they are too embarrassed to talk about earning potential, and as far as footballers protecting themselves from the wrath of fans it is the only thing they can say.
My point was that you can't argue man utd do have ambition by reminsicing about past achievements.
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Northstander
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I cant wait to see what happens when the new wages cap rule comes in!!
Pot noodles for everyone
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You really think Rooney's position is about MU's ambition.
You do love those facepalm smileys. Still, in lieu of a convincing argument....
Man U fan agrees with Man U fan shocker.
Northstander
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Man Utd can sell Rooney for as much as they like, they aint gonna get the money to reinvest due to the debt the Glazers have!
Oh well nevermind eh?
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Oh well nevermind eh?
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Bold Seagull
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Defending ManU on a Brighton board makes me a ManU fan? Right oh then, so unless you spill a load of hateful resentful bile you are a ManU fan. Nice one. Now which one to use....let me think....erm....
Pavilionaire
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It was fascinating to hear Ferguson's reaction to Rooney's statement about wanting to leave Utd because they're failing to show ambition. Sir Alex replied "Ambition? We've won thirty trophies."
Yet ambition implies the future, not the past. Only League titles and Champions League wins will satisfy Rooney and United do not seem well-placed to seriously challenge for either this season. Crucially, the books are a disaster unless they sell quality like Ronaldo.
Sir Alex has done a great job of keeping the club together in the midst of the row between fans and the Glazers, but the reality is the rot set in when he failed to replace Ronaldo.
Yet ambition implies the future, not the past. Only League titles and Champions League wins will satisfy Rooney and United do not seem well-placed to seriously challenge for either this season. Crucially, the books are a disaster unless they sell quality like Ronaldo.
Sir Alex has done a great job of keeping the club together in the midst of the row between fans and the Glazers, but the reality is the rot set in when he failed to replace Ronaldo.
