Sin bins ..should we have them in soccer

[ditchy]

Reading the fergie thread , isnt it about time we had sin bins ..punish a player for diving etc.. that way the opposition benefit straight away and not the future opponents 4weeks down the track or what ever ..

 

[sully]

Absolutely.

This would also make it easier to give a punishment when the ref is not 100% certain of the intent, and will give players a chance to calm down.

Obviously, if they come back and do the same thing again, they then deserve a red card.

 

[Marc]

Yes, purley for the fact that players will think twice before diving, although I would only use sin-bins for Cheating purposes. Keep immediate Yellow/Red for fouls etc

 

[Dave the OAP]

yup

100% agree

 

[Blue&WhiteSea]

Yes & blood subs too please.

 

[Jason Speaks]

No. However I do think that when one of your players has to leave the pitch for treatment after a foul, the fouling player should be removed for the duration of the treatment period. At the moment the advantage is going to the team who commits the foul.

 

[Vinyl Richie]

oh my god have any of you ever played football? It's the worst idea ever....take up ice hockey you lot!

If you want to punish divers or cheaters a sin bin wouldn't work at all! There will always be players that "cheat" to be better than there opponent. A sin bin would give "cheats" a second chance!!

I just think refs should be quicker to issue cards for cheating (when caught) so that players think a lot harder b4 cheating........but cheating is a part of the game whether you lot like it or not. All the ex-pros will tell you it's "experience"

 

[ditchy]

Nothing worse than having a goal scored against you whilst u were in the sin bin and should have been on to defend it ..

 

[Jason Speaks]

Just out of interest, for those pro this idea. What would be the maximum number of players from one team who could be placed in the sin bin at one time?

 

[ditchy]

why put a maximum on it .. if say 3 guys are binned at one time and they conceed goals becuase of it so be it

 

[CP 0 3 BHA]

Just out of interest, for those pro this idea. What would be the maximum number of players from one team who could be placed in the sin bin at one time?

I don't think you need one: as a rugby watcher I've never seen more than two off at once from a side and that just creates a short term advantage for the other side.

If a footy team was down to nine men I'd be surprised if they would want to have anyone else binned: if you stopped the game at a certain number you would create an objective for some!

 

[Marc]

Trouble then comes with sin-binning is if you do have 2 players off then that team will resort to time-wasting tactics to get players back on, thats bound to happen and that will infuriate opposing players/managers/fans even more!

 

[ditchy]

Thats easy to police .. If its deliberate you can just stop the clock in the sin bin

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Whoever said punishment for a bad tackle should be linked to the number of matches (Houllier) or minutes (post above) the opponent is out is nuts.

Some appalling fouls don't result in injury at all, whether by luck or judgement, while minor incidents can result in lasting injury. You can't have someone getting away with a horror tackle purely because the opponent miraculously avoided injury. Likewise, if a player is out for a year, or has to retire, what are you going to do?

Think the sin bin idea could be interesting though, but you'd have fun with the jobsworth 4th official trying to keep track of time in a dirty game!

 

[Jason Speaks]

Scenario: Euro 2004 final. England vs Portugal. England 1-0 up Moving into stoppage time. Conceciao Knocks the ball forward into the area. Terry and Figo both chase the ball. Terry slides in with a last gasp tackle. Figo knows he is not going to get the ball.

In this situation Figo has nothing to lose and everything to gain from going down. This is proably the last chance of a goal to save his countries hopes.

If the ref is conned they have a chance to equalise.

If he isn't Figo sits out the remaining seconds and receives his runners-up medal and goes unpunished.

This scenario would crop up time and time again. The sin bin option is neithr sufficent as a deterrant or a punishment.

 

[ditchy]

Nothing to say that a booking with sin bin.. therefore possibly recieves ban at a laterdate ...Not suggesting we do away with red and yellows too.. just saying that if booked should do a sin bin as well

 

[Titanic]

Scenario: Euro 2004 final. England vs Portugal. England 1-0 up Moving into stoppage time. Conceciao Knocks the ball forward into the area. Terry and Figo both chase the ball. Terry slides in with a last gasp tackle. Figo knows he is not going to get the ball.

In this situation Figo has nothing to lose and everything to gain from going down. This is proably the last chance of a goal to save his countries hopes.

If the ref is conned they have a chance to equalise.

If he isn't Figo sits out the remaining seconds and receives his runners-up medal and goes unpunished.

This scenario would crop up time and time again. The sin bin option is neithr sufficent as a deterrant or a punishment.

in this very limited scenario - what is the deterrant effect of a possible yellow/red card anway??

 

[Jason Speaks]

Suspension from future international games and disciplinary action taken by FIFA.

 

[ditchy]

Also like to add any form of violent conduct would be str8 red as is now with no sinbin option

 

[Simster]

Suspension from future international games and disciplinary action taken by FIFA.

Why not just have things as they are, but with a yellow card meaning 10 mins in the sin bin if the foul is for dangerous play.